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Oct 11, 2017 09:04:06   #
Brent Rowlett Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Yes and when you consider it is almost impossible to sell a photograph or painting today being manipulated with new cameras, upgraded software every year, computer companies that will not stock parts or repair computers more than 5 years old, all this cloud bull shit...do you really need the so called "best?" I made more money with 8 Bit photography and film than I ever could hope to make today. Soon to call it quits and get off the pay to play merry go round.

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Oct 11, 2017 09:04:38   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
jccash wrote:
Ya, that one and Fujiflim old school looks and dials. Very nice.


You are getting nice, large prints from it?

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Oct 11, 2017 09:05:47   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
Brent Rowlett wrote:
Yes and when you consider it is almost impossible to sell a photograph or painting today being manipulated with new cameras, upgraded software every year, computer companies that will not stock parts or repair computers more than 5 years old, all this cloud bull shit...do you really need the so called "best?" I made more money with 8 Bit photography and film than I ever could hope to make today. Soon to call it quits and get off the pay to play merry go round.


Sage wisdom.

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Oct 11, 2017 09:08:44   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
"If you can't say what you need to say in a photograph without heaping layers of software or resorting to the latest trends in post processing, you're probably not saying much of anything."

-C.J. Chilvers

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Oct 11, 2017 09:16:12   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
The 100 score is a relative score, not a perfect score. There will be cameras that pass 100 at some point...

Best,
Todd Ferguson


I am aware of that now.

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Oct 11, 2017 09:18:52   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Brent Rowlett wrote:


Right now everyone is complaining about low light response, i.e. they want a point and shoot camera that is idiot proof.


Isn't that the whole idea behind "Point & Shoot"?


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Oct 11, 2017 09:19:16   #
NoSocks Loc: quonochontaug, rhode island
 
1963mca wrote:
The D850 is giving me real GAS, however I'm going to pass at this time. My D800 has far more capability than I as an "advanced" amateur. The only reason for thinking of changing is GAS. My reason for passing at this time is that at my age I expect I will only get one or two more DSLR's. The only DSLR's I've had are the D90 and the D800, both of which I still have. I entered the world of digital in 2008 with the D90, adding it to my Nikon F4 (which I still use). I was so new to digital I didn't even realize that DX meant a crop sensor, I just thought the D90 was a top of the line amateurs 35mm (FF) DSLR camera. The info I read at the time didn't really describe the crop aspect. All I knew was that it was a lot less expensive than the "Pro" Nikons. I was and am still happy with the D90 and the DX format is absolutely no hindrance to me, has no bearing on the desire to upgrade, but GAS forced me to want an actual FF camera. Didn't need it, just wanted one. Plus I have a lot of FX lenses from the F4 era and have now added more (yes, have used them on the D90). Finally bit the bullet in 2014 and jumped in to the D800. Again, far more camera than I need but love it. So this was a gap of 6 years between my first DSLR and latest DSLR. Now, looking at the timeline of Nikon FX releases I see a span of only 2 to 3 years between them, each offering interesting steps forward, especially in sensor size and/or iso. So my thought is, since I've only had my D800 for 3 years now that the D850 is out, what will Nikon be releasing in another 3 years? If I keep my 6 year gap between DSLR purchases then I'm wondering what Nikon will have for us in 2020? Figure if I start saving now, I'll even have enough money to buy whatever they have to offer by then. If I had a real reason to upgrade, I'd get a D850, but..... I can wait. Anybody else thinking of waiting?
The D850 is giving me real GAS, however I'm going ... (show quote)


I have a D610 (full frame) and yet I drool over the D850. Why? GAS is the only reason. The 610 is fine for my purposes and skill level. But GAS is difficult to suppress so I see an 850 in my future when I can convince my financial advisor that my continued good health is dependent on it.

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Oct 11, 2017 09:42:25   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
mas24 wrote:
I understand your point of view, and it applies to others as well, including myself. As an amateur, I think that one should master most functions of their camera before upgrading. Especially going from a crop sensor to a full frame. Full frame photography is far more expensive as a hobby or as a professional. You can buy 2 DX lenses or more, compared to one FX lens. I remember when the D700 and D90 were released, around 2008. The D700 came with almost the same excitement as the D850. And it came with a whopping 12.1 megapixels. Nine years later, we're at 46 megapixels, plus many other new features. And a camera that recently had a first ever perfect score of 100. That is indeed an upgrade. For some or not for some?
I understand your point of view, and it applies to... (show quote)


It's not a perfect score it's one of the best (so far) but the score goes higher there are a couple with 101 and 102 scores as well.

Most photography is limited by the photographer , the light and distance. Marginal improvements in camera technology will not turn a bad photograph into an excellent one.

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Oct 11, 2017 10:03:27   #
Doug Estes Loc: Nederland, Texas
 
Manglesphoto wrote:



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Oct 11, 2017 11:07:16   #
sandersonjack15
 
I did my last digital upgrade this year. It will last me as long as I’m going to be around. However I did just buy a Pentax LX film camera. 30 years old.

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Oct 11, 2017 11:23:38   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
sandersonjack15 wrote:
I did my last digital upgrade this year. It will last me as long as I’m going to be around. However I did just buy a Pentax LX film camera. 30 years old.



Don’t be surprised if you get more enjoyment out of your Pentax LX, than your digital rigs. 👍

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Oct 11, 2017 11:27:15   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
1963mca wrote:
The D850 is giving me real GAS, however I'm going to pass at this time. My D800 has far more capability than I as an "advanced" amateur. The only reason for thinking of changing is GAS. My reason for passing at this time is that at my age I expect I will only get one or two more DSLR's. The only DSLR's I've had are the D90 and the D800, both of which I still have. I entered the world of digital in 2008 with the D90, adding it to my Nikon F4 (which I still use). I was so new to digital I didn't even realize that DX meant a crop sensor, I just thought the D90 was a top of the line amateurs 35mm (FF) DSLR camera. The info I read at the time didn't really describe the crop aspect. All I knew was that it was a lot less expensive than the "Pro" Nikons. I was and am still happy with the D90 and the DX format is absolutely no hindrance to me, has no bearing on the desire to upgrade, but GAS forced me to want an actual FF camera. Didn't need it, just wanted one. Plus I have a lot of FX lenses from the F4 era and have now added more (yes, have used them on the D90). Finally bit the bullet in 2014 and jumped in to the D800. Again, far more camera than I need but love it. So this was a gap of 6 years between my first DSLR and latest DSLR. Now, looking at the timeline of Nikon FX releases I see a span of only 2 to 3 years between them, each offering interesting steps forward, especially in sensor size and/or iso. So my thought is, since I've only had my D800 for 3 years now that the D850 is out, what will Nikon be releasing in another 3 years? If I keep my 6 year gap between DSLR purchases then I'm wondering what Nikon will have for us in 2020? Figure if I start saving now, I'll even have enough money to buy whatever they have to offer by then. If I had a real reason to upgrade, I'd get a D850, but..... I can wait. Anybody else thinking of waiting?
The D850 is giving me real GAS, however I'm going ... (show quote)


I am not only waiting, but will pass GAS completely. I recently upgraded to a Df from a D5300 (kept the D5300 for video and on the advice of UHHers). I found that FX glass, no surprise, is much more expensive. So while I learn the camera, I am also much more selective about glass purchases. I have one great 50mm f1.4 and two used lenses - WA zoom and a long zoom. The long zoom cost me all of $25! Will it be a great piece of glass? I doubt it, but it will help me decide what I really want in a long zoom. Ditto on the WA zoom. Although better and more $$, it will also show me the way on the short end. So with a total of about $600, I can cover: 18-35, 50, 70-300. Now I can go to "school" and learn more about the craft and about what I really will use. BTW, not bragging, but I could afford to spend the money, but choose not to. Somehow, money in the bank already is much harder to spend.... still learning patience even at my age! I am thankful for the hoggers who make this site so useful and interesting.

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Oct 11, 2017 11:43:56   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
blackest wrote:
It's not a perfect score it's one of the best (so far) but the score goes higher there are a couple with 101 and 102 scores as well.

Most photography is limited by the photographer , the light and distance. Marginal improvements in camera technology will not turn a bad photograph into an excellent one.


I am aware of that now.

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Oct 11, 2017 11:47:46   #
jpicc1113
 
I hate to sound like a newbie....but what does GAS stand for?

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Oct 11, 2017 11:48:50   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
You are not alone!
jpicc1113 wrote:
I hate to sound like a newbie....but what does GAS stand for?

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