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Jun 29, 2012 18:33:09   #
TonyB Loc: Cornwall UK
 
Can anyone tell me why I have the distinct white edges between the top of the building and the sky.



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Jun 29, 2012 18:34:58   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
TonyB wrote:
Can anyone tell me why I have the distinct white edges between the top of the building and the sky.


Looks like bit to much sharpening to me. What did you do to the image in post production? It looks like a stroke outline on the layer as the white is about 3 pixels thick on my downloaded copy.

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Jun 29, 2012 19:20:56   #
snowbear
 
Most likely it's from over-processing the sky.

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Jun 29, 2012 20:17:04   #
bawlmer Loc: Baltimore, MD
 
snowbear wrote:
Most likely it's from over-processing the sky.


I second that. It just looks like alot of heavy over-processing.

Can you post the original and check the box (store original) ?

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Jun 30, 2012 05:54:49   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
Over use of (Photoshop) editing controls. The black areas in the sky do not look natural to me. They look like a mistake with a paint brush tool.

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Jun 30, 2012 06:15:48   #
Granddad Loc: UK
 
If you have done no pp I wonder could it be Chromatic Aberration which is the rgb rays not forming in the lens properly. Is this happening quite regular with some of your images and do you get sometimes purple surrounds on some of your subjects in your images.
I may be barking up the wrong tree but look it up.

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Jun 30, 2012 09:11:41   #
TonyB Loc: Cornwall UK
 
the only PP I did was to convert the original to B&W and I didnt like it so I cancelled it. The sky looks like it stayed at B&W with a red filter. I only sharpened it slightly (about 5) and didnt notice the white lines until I printed it.
I haven't seen this before in either colour or B &W so I just want to avoid it happening again.
Thank you all for the interest taken in my problem.

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Jun 30, 2012 09:45:02   #
snowbear
 
What format is the original (raw, TIFF, JPG)? Do you see the lines on the original, unprocessed image?

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Jun 30, 2012 15:19:17   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
TonyB wrote:
Can anyone tell me why I have the distinct white edges between the top of the building and the sky.


The histogram shows your image to be extremely overexposed. It also show blown out shadows but this is probably due to something you did accidently in post. Do you have the original un-touched image? If not, this is the perfect lesson why you never do post on an original. It's easy to make a duplicate to perform your post processing on. Also it's always a good idea to drag the background layer onto the new layer icon before you start editing too. You can also save the layered image in tiff or psd so that all your hard layering and adjustments are preserved in 16 bit. You can also use the history panel to go as far back as you like.

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Jun 30, 2012 16:14:19   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
Looks like a botched HDR attempt. Most likely from over processing in post. I'd suggest starting over from the original with a lighter hand.

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Jun 30, 2012 16:27:47   #
TonyB Loc: Cornwall UK
 
Original was JPEG and the sky was the same as the one shown. Previously I had been taking some B&W photos with the in camera B&W + red filter, and had switched back to colour. But when I took the pic of the gateway, I noticed the white sky and black blur on the monitor.
I wonder if somehow the camera had partially stuck on B&W, although it seems OK later.
I have never seen the white outlines before, but if it was a Chromatic aberration, surely it would have been a purple or red fringe on the skyline where there is a high contrast between the dark foliage and the bright, but cloudy sky.

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Jun 30, 2012 16:33:27   #
steve40 Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA
 
Agreed; "Over-processing". Both the histogram in PhotoME, and PSE 9 show sever highlight compression.

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Jun 30, 2012 16:38:32   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
TonyB wrote:
Original was JPEG and the sky was the same as the one shown. Previously I had been taking some B&W photos with the in camera B&W + red filter, and had switched back to colour. But when I took the pic of the gateway, I noticed the white sky and black blur on the monitor.
I wonder if somehow the camera had partially stuck on B&W, although it seems OK later.
I have never seen the white outlines before, but if it was a Chromatic aberration, surely it would have been a purple or red fringe on the skyline where there is a high contrast between the dark foliage and the bright, but cloudy sky.
Original was JPEG and the sky was the same as the ... (show quote)


There's still a problem on the second image. Why is it so black in the upper left corner? This doesn't seem right unless they had some kind of black tarp or roofing material up there. I've never see a camera get stuck half and half b&w and color. Have you messed with the picture styles of the camera? You might have a setting wrong or a problem with the camera. What camera model is it? Having the settings wrong isn't uncommon. I was shooting Black Skimmers with a friend yesterday and he was complaining about every other shot or so being overexposed. (So his histogram said) He couldn't figure it out until he got home and carefully went through his menu settings and found that he had the bracketing on. This guy does wedding for a living so he's not wet behind the ears. Just to show, it can happen to anyone.

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Jun 30, 2012 16:40:56   #
steve40 Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA
 
The second image also has a lot of highlight clipping, its just not as noticeable because it has less highlights. I noticed you were using "Spot Metering", this is probably the culprit. I would use "Average Metering", until I became familiar with the use of "Spot Metering". :)

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Jun 30, 2012 16:55:30   #
TonyB Loc: Cornwall UK
 
Jeep Daddy. I have since gone into the menu and pressed reset to take me back to the default settings, and taken a couple of pics in my back garen and the sky has come out very well despite pointing into the bright evening sky. The camera is a Fujifilm X10 and I've only had it six weeks (Most of them raining and blowing a gale. I have read and reread the manual but am still experimenting, I've been told its the best way to learn. Thanks for your help

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