Apple dumps JPEG
Sep 22, 2017 08:03:08 #
I heard Apple is switching from JPEG format, to "High Efficiency Image File" (HEIF) format in their new operating system (iOS 11 but compatible with iOS 10). Naturally, HEIF is not compatible with Windows and Apple seems to be doing this to cater to iPhone photographers. Apple promises HEIF images require half the file size as JPEG while providing more colors and more vibrant colors. Now...how will HEIF work with PhotoShop or LightRoom? Is this yet another reason to shoot RAW? I know, I know, we should all be shooting RAW in the first place but I still need JPEGs so I can send photos to friends, insert photos in a PowerPoint presentation, etc. Is Apple shooting itself in the foot with this?
Sep 22, 2017 08:16:10 #
fourlocks wrote:
I heard Apple is switching from JPEG format, to &q... (show quote)
Just curious, where did you hear that?
Sep 22, 2017 08:17:34 #
It looks like it might be a win, win. When you export any photos from your iPhone iOS 11 will convert them to jpeg format. You get the best of both worlds.
Sep 22, 2017 08:26:50 #
G Rissler wrote:
It looks like it might be a win, win. When you export any photos from your iPhone iOS 11 will convert them to jpeg format. You get the best of both worlds.
Not to denigrate your comment, but how is that a win? The HEIF is good only on the phone? So how does that help me at all... Any picture worth its salt is going to be sent somewhere else, and since I use sharing to all my devices, the computer won't be able to read the files. I already have a lot of trouble trying to get pictures off the phone to the computer, this will only be worse.
Sep 22, 2017 08:36:25 #
fourlocks wrote:
I heard Apple is switching from JPEG format, to &q... (show quote)
Anyone who values their time, storage space, speed of use, and simplicity should NOT be shooting RAW !
Sep 22, 2017 08:44:37 #
Much ado about little...
HEIF and HEVC will be seamlessly exported. Apple won't leave you in the lurch.
They're just doing what they do best, nudging the entire market in a much better direction. Anyone remember floppy disks? Serial ports? Parallel ports? Phones with keyboards?...
HEIF and HEVC will be seamlessly exported. Apple won't leave you in the lurch.
They're just doing what they do best, nudging the entire market in a much better direction. Anyone remember floppy disks? Serial ports? Parallel ports? Phones with keyboards?...
Sep 22, 2017 08:48:56 #
imagemeister wrote:
Anyone who values their time, storage space, speed of use, and simplicity should NOT be shooting RAW !
There is a place for both file types and their associated workflows. Unfortunately, there are many who ignore the fact that there are advantages and disadvantages of BOTH.
Sep 22, 2017 09:02:16 #
I take all my photos using a camera, not with my Apple iOS iPad.
And I use my cellphone to make and receive phone calls.
And I use my cellphone to make and receive phone calls.
Sep 22, 2017 09:10:29 #
I am not sure why you have trouble transferring photos. I use the photo transfer app and it is so easy to transfer both ways.
Sep 22, 2017 09:27:09 #
G Rissler wrote:
It looks like it might be a win, win. When you export any photos from your iPhone iOS 11 will convert them to jpeg format. You get the best of both worlds.
Which two worlds do you think we are getting the benefits of???
Sep 22, 2017 09:45:49 #
fourlocks wrote:
I heard Apple is switching from JPEG format, to &q... (show quote)
https://www.macworld.com/article/3226490/ios/ios-11-hevc-heif-and-what-you-need-to-know-about-these-new-video-and-photo-formats.html
This article explains quite well, to transfer to a mac (in that format) it needs to be running high sierra by default HEIF files will be converted to jpeg for cases where HEIF isn't supported.
I haven't looked far into it yet, but if HEIF does give better bit depth and color accuracy than jpeg then you will be losing quality with that conversion.
It's probably an improvement over jpeg with some more intense number crunching. Processing power has improved considerably since jpeg was conceived and back in the day this format might have required too much processing power to efficiently encode it in a reasonable time. for current hardware it is probably not an issue.
Sep 22, 2017 09:58:42 #
fourlocks wrote:
I heard Apple is switching from JPEG format, to &q... (show quote)
I shoot RAW but always send out JPEGs by exporting from Lightroom, it takes only seconds to do this and I can make each export individual to the need at hand. I'll read up on the Apple thing, did not hear that so thanks for sharing it.
Sep 22, 2017 10:03:46 #
I upgraded to IOS 11 because I’m slightly impulsive. Since my desktop and laptop are Windows which isn’t HEIF compatible yet, I went to Settings, Camera, then unchecked High Efficiency and then checked Most Compatible. So now, the few photos taken with my iPhone will be saved as jpeg.
Sep 22, 2017 10:07:10 #
imagemeister wrote:
Anyone who values their time, storage space, speed of use, and simplicity should NOT be shooting RAW !
It only takes maybe 1 or 2 minutes or so to edit a RAW file, the same amount of time I'd put into a JPEG file. If I go back into any file to do further, more detailed edits, then the time increases, but this would apply to any format. I edit RAW files in batch mode when all the photos were taken in the same light, so I can edit many photos at once in seconds. It is a fallacy that editing RAW files takes a lot of time. As with any software program, editing any photo takes a good amount of time in the beginning as you learn it, but over time, depending on your ability to learn, the program becomes known to you and the editing is very fast.
Sep 22, 2017 10:10:22 #
Martino
Loc: Northwest Florida
burkphoto wrote:
Much ado about little...
HEIF and HEVC will be seamlessly exported. Apple won't leave you in the lurch.
They're just doing what they do best, nudging the entire market in a much better direction. Anyone remember floppy disks? Serial ports? Parallel ports? Phones with keyboards?...
HEIF and HEVC will be seamlessly exported. Apple won't leave you in the lurch.
They're just doing what they do best, nudging the entire market in a much better direction. Anyone remember floppy disks? Serial ports? Parallel ports? Phones with keyboards?...
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