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Sep 19, 2017 13:06:59   #
shuck Loc: Shucktown, Mississippi
 
Just beginning to take notice of mirrorless cameras. I'm reading here that the viewfinder will show you the approximate exposure results. I can understand the view changing with f stop change, but since shutter speed also helps determine exposure, surely the camera would have to take shutter speed into consideration before it showed you the image in the viewfinder. If it does it sounds almost like a winner to me.

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Sep 19, 2017 13:10:24   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
Suggest you go to a big box store and try one. Shutter also affects the view through the EVF. It's quite helpful.

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Sep 19, 2017 13:18:19   #
SteveLew Loc: Sugar Land, TX
 
The Fuji XT2 show you a histogram of your exposure in the view finder before you take the shot so that you can make adjustments to the aperture or shutter speed or both (with these dials located on top of the camera) before you take the shot.

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Sep 19, 2017 13:21:11   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
EVFs are wonderful, period.

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Sep 19, 2017 13:29:19   #
RickM1950 Loc: Davenport, IA
 
Welcome aboard the Hog Express! Been shooting my Sony A6000 for about 3 years. It is my only camera. Will do what you want! Sony is still selling this model. It is more camera than I will ever need. Go check one out. The kit 20-50 lens is quite good.

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Sep 19, 2017 13:47:57   #
shuck Loc: Shucktown, Mississippi
 
90 miles to big box store, but AAAhh. That's the answer I was looking for.

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Sep 19, 2017 13:58:36   #
shuck Loc: Shucktown, Mississippi
 
Thanks all! I've recently lost my chief interest of the last 26 years and am looking for something to take up some of the slack. I guess I do have a touch of GAS. Another question. How well will my old Nikkor 80=200 (with focusing ring) work on the sony, with an adapter

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Sep 19, 2017 15:47:46   #
RickM1950 Loc: Davenport, IA
 
You can get the sel55-210 Sony as part of a package thru Best Buy. Or check out ebay. Prices all over the map.

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Sep 19, 2017 15:58:19   #
shuck Loc: Shucktown, Mississippi
 
My concern is sharpness, rather than the $200 price to add the sony lens. The Nikkor is a great lens. Heavy, but sharp. The sony performance is an unknown to me.

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Sep 19, 2017 17:47:56   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
My SLTA65 is one of the last 'big' Sony cameras. The G.A.S . guzzlers will have passed it by now, so you may find a bargain on Craigs list or Adorama. The 'trouble' with going from one make to another is often the percieved (or real) colour shift between Raw or Jpg. (Manufacturer's preference when Sony makes most sensors). Generally an easily fixed 'problem' in PP. As with lenses...some people swear by and others swear at.....Them. I think it is a case of what you work with ....you learn to use within its sweetspot. The trade in prices for 'favoured lenses' means that you may not lose much in replacing some of them.

I would still make the trip and see what Sony does for you.

have fun

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Sep 19, 2017 18:22:38   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
Toment wrote:
EVFs are wonderful, period.


Well, they certainly have some advantages, but mirrors and pentaprisms still have some advantages as well:

First, since what you view on an EVF is the result of processing the computer in the camera must do to the data coming off the chip (the raw data) there is necessarily a short time lag between when light goes into the lens and when you see it. For landscapes and other "slow" kinds of shoots that's perfectly fine; for event shooting where subjects' expressions are fleeting maybe not so much.

Second, where the "resolution" of a DSLR is essentially a gazillion pixels (that is, the actual photons of light getting directed to your eye) the ability to determine fine focus (for macro perhaps) or see the DOF and bokeh with a fast lens is still better with the "mirror method".

I have both and use them when appropriate; this is no speculative nonsense (as I see spouted in these pages all too often)... the point is to go and actually see for yourself which makes sense for you.

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Sep 19, 2017 18:51:00   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
The lag time for modern EVF's is literally FASTER than the time it takes for the signal to travel from the retina down the optic nerve to the brain.

Lag is NOT a problem.

And with modern EVF's, what you see IS what will be recorded because the image you see comes off the SAME sensor that will be used to capture it.

Sony, Fujifilm, Olympus... all have EVF's that allow you to not only SEE your exposure as it will be captured, but with focus magnification you can fine tune your focus WELL BEYOND anything possible with a standard OVF that doesn't have the feature.

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Sep 19, 2017 22:46:46   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
CHOLLY wrote:
The lag time for modern EVF's is literally FASTER than the time it takes for the signal to travel from the retina down the optic nerve to the brain.

Lag is NOT a problem.

And with modern EVF's, what you see IS what will be recorded because the image you see comes off the SAME sensor that will be used to capture it.

Sony, Fujifilm, Olympus... all have EVF's that allow you to not only SEE your exposure as it will be captured, but with focus magnification you can fine tune your focus WELL BEYOND anything possible with a standard OVF that doesn't have the feature.
The lag time for modern EVF's is literally FASTER ... (show quote)


Wrong, bucko. I can definitely tell the difference - SLR is instant and EVF is a hair behind-only a hair but sometimes enough to make all the difference.

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Sep 19, 2017 23:09:22   #
mcveed Loc: Kelowna, British Columbia (between trips)
 
f8lee wrote:
Wrong, bucko. I can definitely tell the difference - SLR is instant and EVF is a hair behind-only a hair but sometimes enough to make all the difference.


And you don't think that just possibly one EVF might have a bit of lag where another might have none? Or have you tested them all? When I fire a hand held flash into a dark room while watching on my EVF I see the flash at the same time on the wall and on my EVF, and that's something less than 1/1000th of a second. Olympus E-M1 Mk II.

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Sep 19, 2017 23:37:18   #
f8lee Loc: New Mexico
 
mcveed wrote:
And you don't think that just possibly one EVF might have a bit of lag where another might have none? Or have you tested them all? When I fire a hand held flash into a dark room while watching on my EVF I see the flash at the same time on the wall and on my EVF, and that's something less than 1/1000th of a second. Olympus E-M1 Mk II.


Well I know I can tell with my own X-T2 and on the Sony and Olympus models I've tried at the store (Samy's Camera in LA and B&H this week).

Yes EVFs do differ but none are a quick as mirrors. It's basic physics.

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