Shakespeare tells us something about Street Photography
Sep 19, 2017 10:35:50 #
"All the world’s a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances, ..."
As You Like It, Act II, Scene VII
If everyone is a player, then no candid images of anyone, including actors and musicians, can be excluded from street photography with the excuse that they are staged.
"Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."
Macbeth, Act V, Scene 5
Life is the stage ... and to argue about it signifies nothing.
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances, ..."
As You Like It, Act II, Scene VII
If everyone is a player, then no candid images of anyone, including actors and musicians, can be excluded from street photography with the excuse that they are staged.
"Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."
Macbeth, Act V, Scene 5
Life is the stage ... and to argue about it signifies nothing.
Sep 19, 2017 10:41:39 #
Sep 19, 2017 11:06:48 #
rjaywallace wrote:
Alas poor "Apoplexy", we knew him well...🙄
He is still going off on his members. See: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-485959-2.html#8175714 It can only end in tears.
Sep 19, 2017 12:20:54 #
selmslie wrote:
He is still going off on his members. See: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-485959-2.html#8175714 It can only end in tears.
In that case I agree with the section manager. I would have disagreed with him if the photograph had been taken from further back / with a wider lens, so the audience had been the dominant part of the photograph.
Sep 19, 2017 12:36:07 #
"We accept almost any inclusive definition of Street Photography, and will not exclude any discussion or image if a member feels it is appropriate to Street Photography."
And he is sticking to it. He is also taking part in the discussion. There is nothing wrong with that.
And he is sticking to it. He is also taking part in the discussion. There is nothing wrong with that.
Sep 19, 2017 13:16:33 #
rehess wrote:
In that case I agree with the section manager. I would have disagreed with him if the photograph had been taken from further back / with a wider lens, so the audience had been the dominant part of the photograph.
Nothing wrong with agreeing. At least it won't get you reprimanded or banned.
Would it have passed muster if they were Cuban ballet dancers? It did before.
Others on that thread expected a negative reaction and got it. I wonder how many got blocked or banned this time?
Sep 19, 2017 13:24:56 #
selmslie wrote:
Nothing wrong with agreeing. At least it won't get you reprimanded or banned.
Would it have passed muster if they were Cuban ballet dancers? It did before.
Others on that thread expected a negative reaction and got it. I wonder how many got blocked or banned this time?
Would it have passed muster if they were Cuban ballet dancers? It did before.
Others on that thread expected a negative reaction and got it. I wonder how many got blocked or banned this time?
Did you get blocked or banned?
Sep 19, 2017 13:38:54 #
rehess wrote:
In that case I agree with the section manager. I would have disagreed with him if the photograph had been taken from further back / with a wider lens, so the audience had been the dominant part of the photograph.
Seems they are street performers, buskers if you like, more context would have helped, guess you don't get many buskers on the street in barrow alaska. Too cold I guess.
Sep 19, 2017 13:49:46 #
dsmeltz wrote:
Did you get blocked or banned?
Of course, for disagreeing with one of Apaflo's frequently shifting definitions, but I wasn't surprised.
If your definition changes over time, you can just say, "I used to think this but my opinion has changed and here's why." There's nothing wrong with that either.
But the point is not how anyone defines street photography, now or in the past. Hardly anyone subscribes to a single definition. People should accept that and not accuse others who disagree of being wrong, ignorant bullies.
It is only a problem when he states that he knows how to define it and that everyone who disagrees is wrong because he feels that he is infallible - only his opinion counts. And he never admits a mistake.
But worse than that, to claim that he never deleted posts or banned people for disagreeing with him is an a flagrant lie. That is widely understood.
Sep 20, 2017 06:10:45 #
Selmslie, your from Fernandina Beach, FL!! Jacksonville flooded and so your once-upon-a-time town Fernandina is now Atlantis!! sunk into the sea!!!
Street photography, even in Shakespeare's England, is only illegal if you have one of those huge Canon White Lenses pointed at someone. Their threatening or in modern words "existentially threatening**." If you have a small super zoom no one notices, no one cares, especially if the lens mm is long enough. canon and Nikon were popular even then.. well at least Canon, they were made with bronze not today's plastic.
Add "existentially" to any thing and it elevates. eg Existential Image Edit using the new xyz editor. Words have meaning and if they do not have meaning they have even more meaning. Alas existentialism, I knew it well ,,, John Paul Sartre, 1940s.
Beware of the Demographic Bomb!! or is that too a verbal threat word phrase? Would Shakespeare have used such a word? Me thunkisst not!
Street photography, even in Shakespeare's England, is only illegal if you have one of those huge Canon White Lenses pointed at someone. Their threatening or in modern words "existentially threatening**." If you have a small super zoom no one notices, no one cares, especially if the lens mm is long enough. canon and Nikon were popular even then.. well at least Canon, they were made with bronze not today's plastic.
Add "existentially" to any thing and it elevates. eg Existential Image Edit using the new xyz editor. Words have meaning and if they do not have meaning they have even more meaning. Alas existentialism, I knew it well ,,, John Paul Sartre, 1940s.
Beware of the Demographic Bomb!! or is that too a verbal threat word phrase? Would Shakespeare have used such a word? Me thunkisst not!
Sep 20, 2017 06:27:03 #
dpullum wrote:
Selmslie, your from Fernandina Beach, FL!! Jackso... (show quote)
Downtown got a bit wet but the rest of Fernandina not as bad as Matthew. Hope things went well for you.
DSLRs are a bit unsubtle for street - don't know why anyone would bother with anything larger than a cellphone or a point & shoot since capturing the moment is more important than resolution.
I'm afraid street is being given too much significance. Maybe it's just to give some rather ordinary images a little cachet.
Sep 20, 2017 14:55:56 #
selmslie wrote:
"All the world’s a stage, br And all the men ... (show quote)
Good street photography is a finely honed skill. "Hope springs eternal."
Sep 20, 2017 15:42:15 #
aellman wrote:
Good street photography is a finely honed skill. "Hope springs eternal."
Good photography of any kind requires skill, opportunity and some luck.
Whether or not two people agree that in image is street photography is probably the least important consideration. Agonizing and bloviating over that particular question just generates a lot of heat and no light. It's not worth arguing about.
But street photography does not need to be technically excellent. It's the subject of the image that matters. If you are aware of the technical merits of the image then the subject must not be interesting enough. HCB's iconic image of a man about to step into a puddle is technically flawed but everyone appreciates the moment.
Sep 20, 2017 16:21:22 #
selmslie wrote:
Good photography of any kind requires skill, oppor... (show quote)
Call is street photography or pavement photography. If it's your own and you like it, enough said. >Alan
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