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Aug 12, 2017 08:10:43   #
queencitysanta Loc: Charlotte, North Carolina
 
B & W

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Aug 12, 2017 08:10:56   #
queencitysanta Loc: Charlotte, North Carolina
 
B & W

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Aug 12, 2017 08:58:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
cthahn wrote:
Most the time ou get what you pay for.


I always get what I pay for, except on those few occasions when I leave the package in the shopping cart.

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Aug 12, 2017 10:02:44   #
ksmmike
 
I have a Breakthrough Photography neutral density filter. It's excellent. The filter itself is excellent as was the packaging. I have B+W too with no complaints,
but the Breakthrough is impressive.
Mike

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Aug 12, 2017 10:09:01   #
Wanderer2 Loc: Colorado Rocky Mountains
 
cbtsam wrote:
I need to obtain a 77mm circular polarizing filter, and I've read some stuff suggesting that Breakthrough Photography makes some pretty great stuff, but it's pretty expensive, about $150.00 for a 77mm filter. Anybody have any experience that can challenge, or vouch for, the quality of this product? Or, of course, suggest an less expensive alternative.


Take a look at the Lenstip article that Jerry posted the link for above. Their testing is extensive and scientifically oriented. The top three in the ratings are Hoya, Marumi, and B+H, with B+H models making up four of the top 6. If you want the best be sure to purchase the top of the line model for whatever brand you choose. Because of the Lenstip ratings I've used the top of the line models for both Hoya and Marumi and they are excellent. I've not used B+H but their filters are widely and consistently praised. I think you will find these three brands will all perform very well.

Regarding Breakthough Photography, I know nothing about their products. I doubt they manufacture filters and wonder who they buy them from. I don't believe that $150 needs to be spent to get an excellent cpf and at the very least I would like to see some independent testing results before I spent that much.

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Aug 12, 2017 10:28:16   #
ksmmike
 
Breakthrough, I believe has their filters made in Germany. They are a fairly new company, but reviews are easily found on YouTube and elsewhere. I have nothing to do
with the company other than I use their products and find them excellent. There are many reviews that will tell you the same thing as I'm telling you. Again, I have nothing
against B+W or Hoya. I have their filters as well. I'm only saying that in my opinion, and using all three companies, Breakthrough is worth the extra price. I barely do any color adjustments with a 6 stop filter and the photos are just as sharp with or without the filter on the lens. A rare feat for a neutral density filter. I would assume their polarizers are of the same quality.
Mike
http://nofilmschool.com/2016/02/5-filters-go-head-head-neutral-density-shootout

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Aug 12, 2017 11:48:13   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
I use the Big Stopper and their ND Grads. The filter holder, IMHO, is not the best designed. Look at Breakthrough's X100 to see an updated version.

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Aug 12, 2017 12:00:32   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Teton Viewer wrote:
Take a look at the Lenstip article that Jerry posted the link for above. Their testing is extensive and scientifically oriented. The top three in the ratings are Hoya, Marumi, and B+H, with B+H models making up four of the top 6. If you want the best be sure to purchase the top of the line model for whatever brand you choose. Because of the Lenstip ratings I've used the top of the line models for both Hoya and Marumi and they are excellent. I've not used B+H but their filters are widely and consistently praised. I think you will find these three brands will all perform very well.

Regarding Breakthough Photography, I know nothing about their products. I doubt they manufacture filters and wonder who they buy them from. I don't believe that $150 needs to be spent to get an excellent cpf and at the very least I would like to see some independent testing results before I spent that much.
Take a look at the Lenstip article that Jerry post... (show quote)


I hope they test Breakthrough next time.

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Aug 12, 2017 12:01:18   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
ksmmike wrote:
Breakthrough, I believe has their filters made in Germany.
Mike
http://nofilmschool.com/2016/02/5-filters-go-head-head-neutral-density-shootout


Could be. I saw "Schott" on the edge of the filter.

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Aug 12, 2017 12:08:49   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 


Interesting test. It seems the red outlines indicate good results. Slightly confusing.

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Aug 12, 2017 12:30:14   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
cbtsam wrote:
I need to obtain a 77mm circular polarizing filter, and I've read some stuff suggesting that Breakthrough Photography makes some pretty great stuff, but it's pretty expensive, about $150.00 for a 77mm filter. Anybody have any experience that can challenge, or vouch for, the quality of this product? Or, of course, suggest an less expensive alternative.


Breakthrough C-Pols do seem pretty darned good...

But not any better than B+W XS-Pro C-Pol "High Transmissive" (lighter tint, less light loss) with 16-layer Nano MRC coatings (more scratch resistant, easier to clean), slim brass frame, Schott glass, Kaesemann quality foils, edge sealing for moisture resistance.... $102.50 for 77mm (at B&H Photo and Adorama, NYC).

Or, B+W F-Pro CPL "High Transmissive" (lighter tint) with 8-layer MRC coatings, brass frame, Schott glass, Kaesemann quality foils, edge sealed for moisture resistance... 77mm for $89.00 (at Adorama in NYC).

Or, B+W F-Pro CPL Kaesemann (darker tint, more light reduction) with 8-layer MRC coatings, brass frame, Schott glass, Kaesemann quality foils, edge sealed for moisture resistance... 77mm for $75.80 (at B&H in NYC).

I just don't see any reason to spend more for, at best, an equal quality filter or.... in many cases, in some respects and some brands, even at 1.5X or 2X the price... not as good as what B+W offers!

I have no idea why some responses are talking about neutral density filters.... I think you were asking about Circular Polarizers!

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Aug 12, 2017 12:36:38   #
ksmmike
 
I researched the neutral density filters a great deal before purchasing the one I did. I was all set to by the one from B+W for less money when I kept
reading about the Breakthrough products. Yes it is "Schott" who makes the glass. If I win the lottery, I'd like to still buy the B+W to do a comparison.
Who knows how much difference there really is between them all, including the Big Stopper? I've been buying and selling several lenses recently
from older Nikon lenses to the newer ones and third party lenses. Sometimes, its really hard to see a difference of any significance. Now, comparing a crap lens
to a top one, of course. But for example the Nikon 20mm F1.8 shooting at F8 ISO 100 and the Nikon 16-35 shot at the same F8 and ISO 100, it's really hard to see
any difference in the images blown up. I can take a crap lens and yes there's a difference. My point being B+W is a top company, there might only be a slight difference
between the filters or none at all. In the tests that I've seen, the Breakthrough edges them out, but is it worth the price difference? That's for you to decide. Is a Zeiss lens
worth more than others? I would say yes in most cases, others might say no. It's your money. Everyone has a budget they will put into their cameras and lenses.
I'm not claiming that I'm right. I'm only claiming it was the right choice for me.
Mike

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Aug 12, 2017 12:54:00   #
ksmmike
 
You are right, he did ask about polarizers, its why in the first post, I mentioned that I hadn't tried any polarizers from them, but I could only assume they were of the same
quality.

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Aug 12, 2017 12:59:34   #
Bob Boner
 
I have quit using my older filters since getting the ones from BreakThrough.

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Aug 12, 2017 13:04:16   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
I think it would be a good idea to research the Schott glass that Breakthrough is using. You can buy a 77mm CPL made with Schott glass for around $50. I'd hate to think they are charging an extra $100 for a better ring.

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