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Aug 11, 2017 17:40:19   #
wesm
 
There are a lot of forest fires in the Pacific NW and Canada, potentially affecting eclipse watching in Oregon or Idaho.
I'm fortunate enough to be staying with a cousin on the Idaho-Wyoming border near Grand Teton (never mind exactly where).
My question is: if it's hazy, but you can still see the sun, what kind of filter would you use during partial occlusion? Should I carry a selection of ND filters with me just in case?

I saw a picture from somewhere in Oregon, looked like mid-afternoon sun, just a dull orange through the haze, probably couldn't see it at all with solar filters.

Thanks,
Wes
 
Aug 11, 2017 17:51:30   #
lamiaceae (a regular here)
 
wesm wrote:
There are a lot of forest fires in the Pacific NW and Canada, potentially affecting eclipse watching in Oregon or Idaho.
I'm fortunate enough to be staying with a cousin on the Idaho-Wyoming border near Grand Teton (never mind exactly where).
My question is: if it's hazy, but you can still see the sun, what kind of filter would you use during partial occlusion? Should I carry a selection of ND filters with me just in case?

I saw a picture from somewhere in Oregon, looked like mid-afternoon sun, just a dull orange through the haze, probably couldn't see it at all with solar filters.

Thanks,
Wes
There are a lot of forest fires in the Pacific NW ... (show quote)


Head to Missouri!
Aug 11, 2017 17:54:05   #
wesm
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Head to Missouri!


Show me!!

Sorry, not an option. And, seriously: August in Missouri?
Aug 11, 2017 17:58:43   #
speters (a regular here)
 
wesm wrote:
There are a lot of forest fires in the Pacific NW and Canada, potentially affecting eclipse watching in Oregon or Idaho.
I'm fortunate enough to be staying with a cousin on the Idaho-Wyoming border near Grand Teton (never mind exactly where).
My question is: if it's hazy, but you can still see the sun, what kind of filter would you use during partial occlusion? Should I carry a selection of ND filters with me just in case?

I saw a picture from somewhere in Oregon, looked like mid-afternoon sun, just a dull orange through the haze, probably couldn't see it at all with solar filters.

Thanks,
Wes
There are a lot of forest fires in the Pacific NW ... (show quote)

I would always carry the solar filter with me, just in case (one got to be prepared). I would expect that with enough smoke in the air, that the solar filter will not be needed. I did took a picture straight into the sun a few years back, when it was that smoky and I did not need any kind of filter for that one.


Aug 11, 2017 19:58:43   #
DaveO (a regular here)
 
wesm wrote:
Show me!!

Sorry, not an option. And, seriously: August in Missouri?


I spent a week there one day!
Aug 11, 2017 20:02:53   #
DaveO (a regular here)
 
wesm wrote:
There are a lot of forest fires in the Pacific NW and Canada, potentially affecting eclipse watching in Oregon or Idaho.
I'm fortunate enough to be staying with a cousin on the Idaho-Wyoming border near Grand Teton (never mind exactly where).
My question is: if it's hazy, but you can still see the sun, what kind of filter would you use during partial occlusion? Should I carry a selection of ND filters with me just in case?

I saw a picture from somewhere in Oregon, looked like mid-afternoon sun, just a dull orange through the haze, probably couldn't see it at all with solar filters.

Thanks,
Wes
There are a lot of forest fires in the Pacific NW ... (show quote)


I thought that area was getting smoke from the east. Webcam shots inside Yellowstone are showing it. http://www.yellowstone.co/webcams.htm

Jackson Hole Valley is big time hazed. At the bottom of the link there are more area webcams.
 
Aug 11, 2017 20:28:13   #
LoneRangeFinder (a regular here)
 
DaveO wrote:
I spent a week there one day!


Well I spent a cat's nine lives in Omaha one year....
Aug 11, 2017 20:50:53   #
Tet68survivor (a regular here)
 
speters wrote:
I would always carry the solar filter with me, just in case (one got to be prepared). I would expect that with enough smoke in the air, that the solar filter will not be needed. I did took a picture straight into the sun a few years back, when it was that smoky and I did not need any kind of filter for that one.


That's an interesting photo. By the way, smoke is just a different kind of cloud (joking). Could make for some interesting effects. Give it a try from where you took this one, there is another chance in 2024. Everyone will be posting "in the clear" shots, so why not take a chance and do something different? You and us may be pleasantly surprised. Wishing you success. Oh yeah almost forgot, don't bet your eyesight on not needing a filter, why? Because you get terrible sunburns on cloudy days don't you?
Aug 11, 2017 22:36:23   #
TheDman (a regular here)
 
Unless you're standing next to the wildfire, you'll still need your solar filter.
Aug 11, 2017 22:40:02   #
jcboy3 (a regular here)
 
wesm wrote:
There are a lot of forest fires in the Pacific NW and Canada, potentially affecting eclipse watching in Oregon or Idaho.
I'm fortunate enough to be staying with a cousin on the Idaho-Wyoming border near Grand Teton (never mind exactly where).
My question is: if it's hazy, but you can still see the sun, what kind of filter would you use during partial occlusion? Should I carry a selection of ND filters with me just in case?

I saw a picture from somewhere in Oregon, looked like mid-afternoon sun, just a dull orange through the haze, probably couldn't see it at all with solar filters.

Thanks,
Wes
There are a lot of forest fires in the Pacific NW ... (show quote)


A simple test is to use the lens to focus the sun on your palm; if it doesn't feel warm you will be fine. But still be careful looking through an optical viewfinder; it may be okay but you don't want to risk your eyes.
Aug 12, 2017 05:44:34   #
jerryc41 (a regular here)
 
wesm wrote:
There are a lot of forest fires in the Pacific NW and Canada, potentially affecting eclipse watching in Oregon or Idaho.
I'm fortunate enough to be staying with a cousin on the Idaho-Wyoming border near Grand Teton (never mind exactly where).
My question is: if it's hazy, but you can still see the sun, what kind of filter would you use during partial occlusion? Should I carry a selection of ND filters with me just in case?

I saw a picture from somewhere in Oregon, looked like mid-afternoon sun, just a dull orange through the haze, probably couldn't see it at all with solar filters.

Thanks,
Wes
There are a lot of forest fires in the Pacific NW ... (show quote)
 
Aug 12, 2017 05:45:23   #
jerryc41 (a regular here)
 
wesm wrote:
There are a lot of forest fires in the Pacific NW and Canada, potentially affecting eclipse watching in Oregon or Idaho.
I'm fortunate enough to be staying with a cousin on the Idaho-Wyoming border near Grand Teton (never mind exactly where).
My question is: if it's hazy, but you can still see the sun, what kind of filter would you use during partial occlusion? Should I carry a selection of ND filters with me just in case?

I saw a picture from somewhere in Oregon, looked like mid-afternoon sun, just a dull orange through the haze, probably couldn't see it at all with solar filters.

Thanks,
Wes
There are a lot of forest fires in the Pacific NW ... (show quote)


If any of the actual sun is visible, you should use a solar filter. Your camera and your eyes, so be careful.
Aug 12, 2017 05:48:26   #
Manglesphoto (a regular here)
 
wesm wrote:
Show me!!

Sorry, not an option. And, seriously: August in Missouri?


Have lived here almost 78 years, been a few places around the country, they all have their +/- 's.
Aug 12, 2017 05:54:58   #
cthahn (a regular here)
 
What do you think an ND filter would do? When you can not see the sun it is hard to take a picture of it. Who could care where you are staying.
Aug 12, 2017 07:34:54   #
carl hervol
 
This has been talked about a million times. Are you new to this sight?
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