Hi everyone! I'm hoping that you can shed some light on this topic for me and which way is best to go. I know lots of people shoot in both JPEG and/or RAW formats and each has it's merits on it's own but here is my issue. I love doing post production work and I am currently using Elements 11 to do this with, which for me produces good results. The problem I have is I have never shot in RAW format and I'm partially colorblind to reds and greens. From my understanding you can do more color adjustment in RAW but with my color blindness I'm wondering if I'm better sticking to JPEG and using elements or possibly a different program for my post production. My work is strictly for my enjoyment and preserving memories of where I have been and what I have seen, and to share with family and friends. I don't enter contests or share many photos outside of my friends and family, but I still want to do the very best that I can. So here goes the conversation and suggestions. Let me know what you think and the positives and negatives for someone like myself with both formats. Thanks so much UHH family, I will look forward to your comments.
My son is red green color blind so I can hear where you're coming from. I've been dragging him behind me to get him interested in photography and have him shoot in raw. He hasn't really had much of a problem. PP for the raw files is so much more than color and he has had fun adjusting his photos. My advice is to spend one morning shooting just raw and see how you do with pp. have a couple of people take a look 👀. You usually can tell by the expression on their face if you've blown it. In that event there's always the 'delete option.
Based on your description of colorblindness, I would definitely shoot Jpeg images and use something like Elements or Lightroom to make limited adjustments. Actually, your 'handicap' might turn out to be a benefit because it may force you to be careful about getting more of your images right SOC (straight out of the camera) than lazy bums like me who rely all too heavily on post-processing. I sincerely wish you great results! Please share some of your photos in the UHH Photo Gallery section. Keep in mind that monochrome (b&w) images can be very effective and don't involve the red-green issue. /Ralph
Steve, Ray has a good point. In addition, I might suggest that you try black and white photography. This will allow you to be attentive to composition and less worry about colors.
--Bob
Steve3265 wrote:
Hi everyone! I'm hoping that you can shed some light on this topic for me and which way is best to go. I know lots of people shoot in both JPEG and/or RAW formats and each has it's merits on it's own but here is my issue. I love doing post production work and I am currently using Elements 11 to do this with, which for me produces good results. The problem I have is I have never shot in RAW format and I'm partially colorblind to reds and greens. From my understanding you can do more color adjustment in RAW but with my color blindness I'm wondering if I'm better sticking to JPEG and using elements or possibly a different program for my post production. My work is strictly for my enjoyment and preserving memories of where I have been and what I have seen, and to share with family and friends. I don't enter contests or share many photos outside of my friends and family, but I still want to do the very best that I can. So here goes the conversation and suggestions. Let me know what you think and the positives and negatives for someone like myself with both formats. Thanks so much UHH family, I will look forward to your comments.
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Steve3265 wrote:
Hi everyone! I'm hoping that you can shed some light on this topic for me and which way is best to go. I know lots of people shoot in both JPEG and/or RAW formats and each has it's merits on it's own but here is my issue. I love doing post production work and I am currently using Elements 11 to do this with, which for me produces good results. The problem I have is I have never shot in RAW format and I'm partially colorblind to reds and greens. From my understanding you can do more color adjustment in RAW but with my color blindness I'm wondering if I'm better sticking to JPEG and using elements or possibly a different program for my post production. My work is strictly for my enjoyment and preserving memories of where I have been and what I have seen, and to share with family and friends. I don't enter contests or share many photos outside of my friends and family, but I still want to do the very best that I can. So here goes the conversation and suggestions. Let me know what you think and the positives and negatives for someone like myself with both formats. Thanks so much UHH family, I will look forward to your comments.
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If you profile your display with a Spyder or i1 Display Pro, and you profile your camera with a ColorChecker Passport you will get neutral colors in your images. The ColorChecker Passport even has warming and cooling tiles in the target to add warm or coolness to your images by selecting them with the color balance eyedropper. Shooting raw and editing with Lightroom is the easiest way to leverage the benefits of the CCP.
This is a good video to watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDtebpvATzcSome of these links may provide some solutions as well:
http://www.peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=101197&seqNum=6https://www.lynda.com/Photoshop-tutorials/Editing-numbers/366371/383347-4.html (its only a summary, but poses some good ideas)
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/64105994669470412/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_wXx1Ng5ZYhttps://digitalphotographyformoms.com/elements-tutorial-skintones-by-the-numbers/Sorry I don't have any links for editing outdoor images that don't include people.
Steve3265 wrote:
Hi everyone! I'm hoping that you can shed some light on this topic for me and which way is best to go. I know lots of people shoot in both JPEG and/or RAW formats and each has it's merits on it's own but here is my issue. I love doing post production work and I am currently using Elements 11 to do this with, which for me produces good results. The problem I have is I have never shot in RAW format and I'm partially colorblind to reds and greens. From my understanding you can do more color adjustment in RAW but with my color blindness I'm wondering if I'm better sticking to JPEG and using elements or possibly a different program for my post production. My work is strictly for my enjoyment and preserving memories of where I have been and what I have seen, and to share with family and friends. I don't enter contests or share many photos outside of my friends and family, but I still want to do the very best that I can. So here goes the conversation and suggestions. Let me know what you think and the positives and negatives for someone like myself with both formats. Thanks so much UHH family, I will look forward to your comments.
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Steve3265....you might want to read this before going down this RAW rabbit hole... good luck....This RAW vs JPEG topic creates Galactic Ugly Hedgehog conflicts on a scale you can't imagine...but read this along with the live fire you have directed on your position.......You have no idea what you have are getting into here...no idea. You need to read this:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/raw.htm
My recommendations since you have partial blindness to two of the primary colors is that you stay with JPEG. RAW files require manipulation and you will not be able to see the colors you are referring to.
Make your life simple.
A simpler explanation is jpg is like shooting Polaroid. RAW is similar to shooting film. With a Polaroid print, you get what you get. With RAW, you need to "develop" and then "print". Develop=ACR Print=PS or LR.
--Bob
NorthPacific wrote:
Steve3265....you might want to read this before going down this RAW rabbit hole... good luck....This RAW vs JPEG topic creates Galactic Ugly Hedgehog conflicts on a scale you can't imagine...but read this along with the live fire you have directed on your position.......You have no idea what you have are getting into here...no idea. You need to read this:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/raw.htm
I am colorblind too. Sometimes I shoot in both raw an jpeg... sometimes just raw depends on what I'm doing and for who. I love to do digital art so what the heck I just shoot raw... looks good to me! When I shoot for clients I do jpeg and raw an have my husband or daughter take a look at the final edits. And don't you get tired of those little circles w/the numbers in them . I could stare at those things all day and still never see the numbers in them.. that's beside the point. If you have the room on your hard drives and you have enough cards to take the pictures with what the heck shoot both.. some of those cards are a little pricey. I use an XQD card and they think a lot of those. But what in photography is not expensive so you just go with the flow .
I am colorblind too. Sometimes I shoot in both raw an jpeg... sometimes just raw depends on what I'm doing and for who. I love to do digital art so what the heck I just shoot raw... looks good to me! When I shoot for clients I do jpeg and raw an have my husband or daughter take a look at the final edits. And don't you get tired of those little circles w/the numbers in them . I could stare at those things all day and still never see the numbers in them.. that's beside the point. If you have the room on your hard drives and you have enough cards to take the pictures with what the heck shoot both.. some of those cards are a little pricey. I use an XQD card and they think a lot of those. But what in photography is not expensive so you just go with the flow .
Steve3265 wrote:
Hi everyone! I'm hoping that you can shed some light on this topic for me and which way is best to go. I know lots of people shoot in both JPEG and/or RAW formats and each has it's merits on it's own but here is my issue. I love doing post production work and I am currently using Elements 11 to do this with, which for me produces good results. The problem I have is I have never shot in RAW format and I'm partially colorblind to reds and greens. From my understanding you can do more color adjustment in RAW but with my color blindness I'm wondering if I'm better sticking to JPEG and using elements or possibly a different program for my post production. My work is strictly for my enjoyment and preserving memories of where I have been and what I have seen, and to share with family and friends. I don't enter contests or share many photos outside of my friends and family, but I still want to do the very best that I can. So here goes the conversation and suggestions. Let me know what you think and the positives and negatives for someone like myself with both formats. Thanks so much UHH family, I will look forward to your comments.
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The quality of your image is dependent on the availability of information, not the colors. You have more flexibility in processing RAW files to B&W. JPEG files are lossy compressed RAW files--information has been lost permanently--an inferior starting point for processing.
jackpinoh wrote:
The quality of your image is dependent on the availability of information, not the colors. You have more flexibility in processing RAW files to B&W. JPEG files are lossy compressed RAW files--information has been lost permanently--an inferior starting point for processing.
Where do you think the colors come from ?
What if the information that was "lost" does not make any difference in the perception of the final image ?
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