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May 30, 2017 19:46:01   #
Jim Bob (suspended)
 
GrandmaG wrote:
Ever since I bought the D7100, I have been questioning my decision as to whether I should have gotten the D750 instead. Having upgrading from the D5000, I missed the articulating screen; but, other than that I was very happy with the improvements in operating the camera...no more searching menus but using buttons instead. One thing that has stopped me from going full-frame is the increased cost of lenses, plus the extra weight involved in carrying both camera & lenses. Also, I don't NEED full frame.

Well, now Nikon has come out with the D500 & after reading an article by Bob Vishneski , I am wondering if this would be the way to go. My main reason to upgrade would be for less noise at a high ISO. His article compares photos taken with the D500 & the D810 at ISO 6400.

I recently tried to take pictures in church of my granddaughter's Confirmation. The church was poorly lit and even at ISO 5000, the pictures of the Bishop and my granddaughter were mostly unusable. Still, a picture is better than NO picture. I tried various settings with no luck in achieving good results.

I know that Nikon is positioning the D500 as a sports and wildlife camera, because of the increased frame rate and buffer; but if it would solve the dark interior dilemma, it would be worth the leap.

BTW, I have read other threads on this forum about upgrading from a D7000 & up. Any advice would be appreciated.

The article can be found at photographylife.com
Ever since I bought the D7100, I have been questio... (show quote)


You have basically eliminated the D750 from consideration by your own criteria. That only leaves one camera of the two you mentioned. Easy choice.
 
May 30, 2017 19:46:20   #
DaveO (a regular here)
 
GrandmaG wrote:
I will definitely go to the local camera store and look at my options first and yes, they do rent.


The D500 really shines in the focus department if you do a lot of wildlife or other action and the faster FPS and bigger buffer are nice if you have the need. Realistically the D7100 is a very capable camera and I would think about optimising is capabilities before changing. You may consider exploring your focus system with this: http://backcountrygallery.com/secrets-nikon-autofocus-system/
This is also excellent for making your D500 walk the walk, so it may be worth your while. I do not wish to downplay the D500, but the D7100 is really decent.
Of course, if you want a new camera, go for it!
May 30, 2017 19:46:33   #
GrandmaG
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
I borrowed 2 D500's recently.
Shot our university graduation with them and the D810.
The D500 images were as good for my purposes.
With the right (fast) lenses, I don't see the need for a full frame camera any more. I used the 17-55 and the 70-200 with the D500.
The button layout is different than what you are used to, but I think it's easier to use.


Although I like the button layout better than the menu searching on the D5000, I still have to look where the buttons are (doesn't everyone?). I do like the touch screen ability, tilt screen and buttons that light up. The deeper grip would be nice, too and I would probably get it with the battery grip.

See, I can't just make one decision!!! There are several things to consider and compare.
May 30, 2017 20:06:52   #
DaveO (a regular here)
 
GrandmaG wrote:
Although I like the button layout better than the menu searching on the D5000, I still have to look where the buttons are (doesn't everyone?). I do like the touch screen ability, tilt screen and buttons that light up. The deeper grip would be nice, too and I would probably get it with the battery grip.

See, I can't just make one decision!!! There are several things to consider and compare.


This is your lucky day, B&H is including the grip! http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1214161-REG/nikon_1559_d500_dslr_camera_body.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=d750&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=
May 30, 2017 20:14:43   #
GrandmaG
 
TriX wrote:
Take a look at this site - just plug in the 2 bodies and be sure to look at the low light ISO data below the chart: http://photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm

Also this link will take you to where you can plug in the ISO and see color charts for various bodies - very informative if high ISO/low light performance is what you're looking for: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Help/ISO-Noise.aspx


This appears to be just for Canon
May 30, 2017 20:21:39   #
TriX (a regular here)
 
GrandmaG wrote:
This appears to be just for Canon


You're correct. Let me research, and I will find a link to Nikon tests. It will however, let you compare Canon FF and crop bodies if that is of general interest regarding ISO vs noise.
 
May 30, 2017 20:24:40   #
GrandmaG
 
DaveO wrote:
The D500 really shines in the focus department if you do a lot of wildlife or other action and the faster FPS and bigger buffer are nice if you have the need. Realistically the D7100 is a very capable camera and I would think about optimising is capabilities before changing. You may consider exploring your focus system with this: http://backcountrygallery.com/secrets-nikon-autofocus-system/
This is also excellent for making your D500 walk the walk, so it may be worth your while. I do not wish to downplay the D500, but the D7100 is really decent.
Of course, if you want a new camera, go for it!
The D500 really shines in the focus department if ... (show quote)


Well, I have 26 grandchildren and 5 great grandchildren and trying to catch them sitting still is nearly impossible!! Plus, some of them are quite good in sports. I may even dabble in short videos of them; although video is not really my thing.

You are probably right. I should explore my focus system; however, the issue is getting good pictures in low light complicated by sitting too far from the subject. Perhaps a different lens would have solved the problem?!! I didn't use the 24-70mm f/2.8 and probably should have.

The ONLY reason I am considering a new camera is the D500 has more of what I want in a camera. Now, to convince hubby that this is a "smart" move!!
May 30, 2017 20:27:30   #
GrandmaG
 


I did see that!! Now, with or without the 16-80 lens....
May 30, 2017 20:32:24   #
DaveO (a regular here)
 
GrandmaG wrote:
Well, I have 26 grandchildren and 5 great grandchildren and trying to catch them sitting still is nearly impossible!! Plus, some of them are quite good in sports. I may even dabble in short videos of them; although video is not really my thing.

You are probably right. I should explore my focus system; however, the issue is getting good pictures in low light complicated by sitting too far from the subject. Perhaps a different lens would have solved the problem?!! I didn't use the 24-70mm f/2.8 and probably should have.

The ONLY reason I am considering a new camera is the D500 has more of what I want in a camera. Now, to convince hubby that this is a "smart" move!!
Well, I have 26 grandchildren and 5 great grandchi... (show quote)


The 500 is better in low light, but it is not magical, that is why you may want to rent and compare. I have thousands of shots with both the 500 and 7100 and a fair number inside with no flash on the 500. I bought a flash...depends on what you're looking for.
May 30, 2017 20:33:39   #
GrandmaG
 
DaveO wrote:
The D500 really shines in the focus department if you do a lot of wildlife or other action and the faster FPS and bigger buffer are nice if you have the need. Realistically the D7100 is a very capable camera and I would think about optimising is capabilities before changing. You may consider exploring your focus system with this: http://backcountrygallery.com/secrets-nikon-autofocus-system/
This is also excellent for making your D500 walk the walk, so it may be worth your while. I do not wish to downplay the D500, but the D7100 is really decent.
Of course, if you want a new camera, go for it!
The D500 really shines in the focus department if ... (show quote)


That book looks great and not too much $$$, so I ordered it. It will be useful no matter which camera I end up with. I will not keep the D7100 if I get the D500. My hubby's D5000 will serve quite well as a backup!
May 30, 2017 20:36:12   #
GrandmaG
 
DaveO wrote:
The 500 is better in low light, but it is not magical, that is why you may want to rent and compare. I have thousands of shots with both the 500 and 7100 and a fair number inside with no flash on the 500. I bought a flash...depends on what you're looking for.


I have many flashes, including the 900; but I may have to get a commander-type flash for when I'm using multiple flashes for portraits since the D500 doesn't have that feature.

EDIT:
Which flash did you buy?
 
May 30, 2017 20:38:40   #
GrandmaG
 
TriX wrote:
You're correct. Let me research, and I will find a link to Nikon tests. It will however, let you compare Canon FF and crop bodies if that is of general interest regarding ISO vs noise.


That was helpful, but I would like to see how the Nikons do with this test. Thank you for the links. I love when people include links!
May 30, 2017 20:39:45   #
DaveO (a regular here)
 
GrandmaG wrote:
That book looks great and not too much $$$, so I ordered it. It will be useful no matter which camera I end up with. I will not keep the D7100 if I get the D500. My hubby's D5000 will serve quite well as a backup!


The first 150 pages deserve going through a couple times. It made me appreciate my camera more by making me understand how to make use of the important features of the focus system. I finally gave up and went to Back button Focus and it's great with wildlife grandchildren and animals as well!
May 30, 2017 20:45:50   #
DaveO (a regular here)
 
GrandmaG wrote:
I have many flashes, including the 900; but I may have to get a commander-type flash for when I'm using multiple flashes for portraits since the D500 doesn't have that feature.

EDIT:
Which flash did you buy?


The Yongnuo YN685, but I've only used it a few times. I know very little about flash units. Most of my efforts have been BIF and prep for Florida and Yellowstone.
May 31, 2017 05:53:29   #
richard1989
 
Can recommend D500 since i own one for my wedding shots: http://www.ajphotographer.ca/. The last shots were made with D500 actually, so I hope it will give you some answers.
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