Planes & train seats are made in Japan. People there are not very BIG! So big people in the states due have problems!
They built a train that went from Pasadena, CA to LA about 25 years ago. Small seats. We learned about Japan after service began.
Notice how cramped 3 seat rows are in planes? Very narrow passage ways!
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PinOakEO wrote:
Planes & train seats are made in Japan. People there are not very BIG! So big people in the states due have problems!
They built a train that went from Pasadena, CA to LA about 25 years ago. Small seats. We learned about Japan after service began.
Notice how cramped 3 seat rows are in planes? Very narrow passage ways!
Of course you are aware that even if what you say is true, the Japanese manufacturers will and can make seats to a size designated by the company who orders them. You have noticed some seats in airplanes are larger than other seats in the same aircraft? Do you see a problem with the seat company making the larger seats rather than the smaller seats?
Was your post for real or am I missing something?
Dennis
You can get a bigger seat if you have a fatter wallet!
I came back from Hawaii in a cramped 6 seat row - 3 on each side of narrow isle.
I have flown only about 3 times in past 25 years!
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
PinOakEO wrote:
Planes & train seats are made in Japan. People there are not very BIG! So big people in the states due have problems!
They built a train that went from Pasadena, CA to LA about 25 years ago. Small seats. We learned about Japan after service began.
Notice how cramped 3 seat rows are in planes? Very narrow passage ways!
My biggest issue with airplane seating is distance between the seats; airline managers are the ones who make those decisions. I rode Amtrak Chicago - L.A. And then L.A - S.D.; I had no trouble at all with seating on those trains.
cthahn wrote:
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Not required. This is the Chit-Chat section.
Only a first class ticket, if available, will get you a reasonably comfortable seat in an airplane. The rest is the cattle car section. All the seats on Amtrak are big and comfortable but enjoy that while you can. The Trump administration has made it plain they want to eliminate most of the Amtrak routes.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
ghill42 wrote:
Only a first class ticket, if available, will get you a reasonably comfortable seat in an airplane. The rest is the cattle car section. All the seats on Amtrak are big and comfortable but enjoy that while you can. The Trump administration has made it plain they want to eliminate most of the Amtrak routes.
At the time of the last government shutdown, the news reported that Amtrak was unaffected, because they had used previous funding to become largely independent of subsidies for daily operations ... so they might need an extended period of time to do damage there.
rehess wrote:
At the time of the last government shutdown, the news reported that Amtrak was unaffected, because they had used previous funding to become largely independent of subsidies for daily operations ... so they might need an extended period of time to do damage there.
I don't get it. If Amtrak doesn't need subsidies, why would a Trump defunding make any difference?
Actually, only the NE corridor is anywhere near being self-sufficient, and that's just for daily operations, not for capital expenditures. The other routes are deeply underwater.
IOW, the NE corridor can pay for the power and personnel, and little else. The other routes can't even pay that; the fuel, trackage rights, personnel and everything else are heavily subsidized, just like pretty much all other mass transit.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
Big Bill wrote:
I don't get it. If Amtrak doesn't need subsidies, why would a Trump defunding make any difference?
Actually, only the NE corridor is anywhere near being self-sufficient, and that's just for daily operations, not for capital expenditures. The other routes are deeply underwater.
IOW, the NE corridor can pay for the power and personnel, and little else. The other routes can't even pay that; the fuel, trackage rights, personnel and everything else are heavily subsidized, just like pretty much all other mass transit.
I don't get it. If Amtrak doesn't need subsidies, ... (
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I won't argue this point. I was repeating what news said a few years ago.
I don't know about train seats, but I do know that airline seats are made to the carrier's specifications and in this day and age that means not as wide, less padding, generally smaller in every dimension. Less of everything in order to reduce weight and the overall space each seat takes up so they can cram more of them in, making more money out of each flight. No problem with airlines making money, that's what they're in business for, but they keep pushing it further and further and one day more people may just say enough and look for other ways to get from a to b.
PinOakEO wrote:
Planes & train seats are made in Japan. People there are not very BIG! So big people in the states due have problems!
They built a train that went from Pasadena, CA to LA about 25 years ago. Small seats. We learned about Japan after service began.
Notice how cramped 3 seat rows are in planes? Very narrow passage ways!
Blame the owners of the vehicles, not the seat makers. The smaller the seats, the more passengers they can fit inside, and the more tickets they sell.
jerryc41 wrote:
Blame the owners of the vehicles, not the seat makers. The smaller the seats, the more passengers they can fit inside, and the more tickets they sell.
And, as United pointed out, the airlines routinely oversell the seats, so even if a few passengers don't show up, the planes still stay full.
boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
Airplane travel used to be a pleasant way to travel. not any more.
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