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Rocky Marciano was a Savage......This the Name of the video not my comment.......Graham
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May 20, 2017 16:39:57   #
Graham Thirkill Loc: Idylic North Yorkshire, England UK.
 
Published on Jan 6, 2016
Highlights and knockouts of the only retired undefeated heavyweight champion of the world in boxing history. Rocky Marciano.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjDfOoAxI_4

How these referees allowed him to batter these opponents and none of them were killed is unbelievable. Thank God the rabbit punch
was banned.......it seems to be the killer blow for this guy........he even hit the opponent when they were on their knees defenceless
was he a sportsman.........not in my book????????.......The referees were disgusting in those days.............was it what the fans wanted???
or the cash involved,???? pressure from the promoters???? or just as it was in those days, in the USA???????
Let the battle commence!!!!!!

Cheers & Beers,
Graham/008\







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May 20, 2017 17:04:10   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
The video shows why he earned his 49-0 record with 43 KOs and in no instance did he punch after his opponent went down and only one instance where he punch as the opponent was going down, but the action suggests the opponent was fainting down. Joe Lewis said Rocky would beat him when he was in his prime. Boxing is not your tea and crumpets sport and supposed to be rough.

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May 20, 2017 17:29:53   #
Graham Thirkill Loc: Idylic North Yorkshire, England UK.
 
John_F wrote:
The video shows why he earned his 49-0 record with 43 KOs and in no instance did he punch after his
opponent went down and only one instance where he punch as the opponent was going down, but the action suggests \
the opponent was fainting down. Joe Lewis said Rocky would beat him when he was in his prime. Boxing is not your tea
and crumpets sport and supposed to be rough.


Try watching the video again good sir, with your spectacles on.....if you haven't got spectacles, may I suggest you have
your eyes tested, because you certainly need them. He was the dirtiest fighter I have ever seen in my 76 years, of watching
boxing, maybe apart from the animal Tyson. As for boxing being not my tea and crumpet sport, I don't understand what you
are trying to say, say things as the are......????????

Have a good evening good sir,
Cheers and Beers

Graham/098\

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May 21, 2017 05:55:20   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
When I was a boy, I watched every Marciano fight that was televised, my Dad was a fan of the Friday night fight tv program. The video was aptly called "...a Savage". My boyhood recollection was that in many of his fights it seemed Marciano "needed" to suffer a little bit of a beating before his savage flip was switched on. I remember several fights in which he was bloodied before the final round.

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May 21, 2017 07:57:57   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Graham Thirkill wrote:
Published on Jan 6, 2016
Highlights and knockouts of the only retired undefeated heavyweight champion of the world in boxing history. Rocky Marciano.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjDfOoAxI_4

How these referees allowed him to batter these opponents and none of them were killed is unbelievable. Thank God the rabbit punch
was banned.......it seems to be the killer blow for this guy........he even hit the opponent when they were on their knees defenceless
was he a sportsman.........not in my book????????.......The referees were disgusting in those days.............was it what the fans wanted???
or the cash involved,???? pressure from the promoters???? or just as it was in those days, in the USA???????
Let the battle commence!!!!!!

Cheers & Beers,
Graham/008\
Published on Jan 6, 2016 br Highlights and knockou... (show quote)


I remember him from when I was a kid. Quite a fighter.

As for the referees allowing that, I'm surprised that society allows that.

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May 21, 2017 09:10:49   #
Graham Thirkill Loc: Idylic North Yorkshire, England UK.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I remember him from when I was a kid. Quite a fighter.

As for the referees allowing that, I'm surprised that society allows that.


Excellent point Jerry. Thank God every fight isn't like most of Marciano 's fights.
We call it legalised thuggery and even that is sugar-coating it somewhat.

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Thuggery in soccer lands guilty party in Jail and rightly so IMHO

Footballer who broke opponent's leg in two places becomes first player jailed for violent tackle

A footballer has become the first in Britain to be sent to prison for a reckless tackle.

Mark Chapman's challenge shattered Terry Johnson's leg in two places and ended his chances of ever playing again.

The 20-year-old Sunday league player was yesterday beginning a six-month jail term after a judge accused him of 'wanton violence'.

While footballers have been sent to prison for punching opponents, the Football Association said Chapman, who admitted causing grievous bodily harm, was the first to be locked up for a bad tackle.

The incident came seconds before the final whistle in a Rugby and District Sunday league match in Warwickshire in October, Warwick Crown Court heard.

Chapman's team, Long Lawford, were losing 3-1 to Wheeltappers, and Mr Johnson, 26, playing left-back, was covering the ball as it went out of play.

But to his horror, Chapman, came sliding in from behind with his studs raised.

Mr Johnson said: 'It was like being hit by a train. I heard a snap. Everyone thought it was two shin-pads snapping, but it was my leg.'

Mr Johnson needed reconstructive surgery and had to have a steel rod inserted to hold the bone pieces together.

Surgeons have warned it will take another 18 months to repair the damage.

'I've also lost two-and-a-half inches of muscle on my calf, it looks like a twig now,' he added.

Since the tackle, the electrician has been unable to work and has struggled to support daughters Ruby, four, Eliza, three, and his partner Lydia Adams, 24.

Chapman - who had been disciplined a number of times for his behaviour on the pitch, although not for violent conduct - was sent off after the referee decided he had deliberately tried to injure his opponent.

Lawrence Watts, defending, drew parallels with a Premiership game last Saturday in which Arsenal's Aaron Ramsey had his leg badly broken by a tackle by a Stoke City defender who is not facing criminal charges.

Jailed: Mark Chapman repeatedly stomped on a Sunday league football opponent
Jailed: Mark Chapman's challenge shattered Terry Johnson's leg in two places

But Judge Robert Orme rejected the suggestion and said it was a totally different situation.

'This is a deliberate act, a premeditated act,' he said. 'A football match gives no one any excuse to carry out wanton violence.'

He added that what he branded a 'quite crazy and mad challenge' had to be considered a 'very deliberate criminal act'.

Mr Johnson welcomed the unprecedented sentence, adding: 'It's ruined my life, I will never be able to play football again.

'As far as I'm concerned he deserved what he got - what goes around comes around.'

While the court did not order him to pay compensation, the victim could sue for damages or make a claim from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority.

Last year Mark Ward, 23, was jailed for four months for common assault after he fractured Jonathan Carroll's ankle in a sliding tackle during a Sunday league game in Middlesbrough, but he had also insulted him and stamped on his leg afterwards.

Also last year, West Drayton's Darren Forwood, 21, was jailed for 28 months after admitting manslaughter of rival player Stephen Ritchie, 43, after killing him with a single punch during a bad-tempered amateur match against Brentford in West London.

Sky Sports pundit Chris Kamara, then a Swindon Town player, was convicted of GBH in 1988 after he caught Shrewsbury Town's Jim Melrose with his elbow but was fined £1,200.

Arsenal's Ramsey
Chapman's lawyer drew parallels with a Premiership game last Saturday in which Arsenal's Aaron Ramsey had his leg badly broken by a tackle (pictured) by a Stoke City defender who is not facing criminal charges. But Judge Robert Orme said it was a totally different situation

And in 1995, former Scottish international Duncan Ferguson was jailed for three months for headbutting Raith Rovers' John McStay while playing for Rangers.

A spokesman for the Football Association said: 'It's the first time anyone has been sent to prison for a tackle.

'There have been two cases where people were sent to prison for other incidents on the pitch, but nothing like this.'

Cheers and Beers
Graham\098/

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May 21, 2017 09:13:39   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Today's fighters mostly dance and try to score "style points." Rocky was a fighter. If people didn't want a beating, they shouldn't have gotten the ring with him.

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May 21, 2017 09:40:22   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Graham Thirkill wrote:
Excellent point Jerry. Thank God every fight isn't like most of Marciano 's fights.
We call it legalised thuggery and even that is sugar-coating it somewhat.

=-=-=-=
Thuggery in soccer lands guilty party in Jail and rightly so IMHO

Footballer who broke opponent's leg in two places becomes first player jailed for violent tackle

A footballer has become the first in Britain to be sent to prison for a reckless tackle.

Mark Chapman's challenge shattered Terry Johnson's leg in two places and ended his chances of ever playing again.

The 20-year-old Sunday league player was yesterday beginning a six-month jail term after a judge accused him of 'wanton violence'.

While footballers have been sent to prison for punching opponents, the Football Association said Chapman, who admitted causing grievous bodily harm, was the first to be locked up for a bad tackle.

The incident came seconds before the final whistle in a Rugby and District Sunday league match in Warwickshire in October, Warwick Crown Court heard.

Chapman's team, Long Lawford, were losing 3-1 to Wheeltappers, and Mr Johnson, 26, playing left-back, was covering the ball as it went out of play.

But to his horror, Chapman, came sliding in from behind with his studs raised.

Mr Johnson said: 'It was like being hit by a train. I heard a snap. Everyone thought it was two shin-pads snapping, but it was my leg.'

Mr Johnson needed reconstructive surgery and had to have a steel rod inserted to hold the bone pieces together.

Surgeons have warned it will take another 18 months to repair the damage.

'I've also lost two-and-a-half inches of muscle on my calf, it looks like a twig now,' he added.

Since the tackle, the electrician has been unable to work and has struggled to support daughters Ruby, four, Eliza, three, and his partner Lydia Adams, 24.

Chapman - who had been disciplined a number of times for his behaviour on the pitch, although not for violent conduct - was sent off after the referee decided he had deliberately tried to injure his opponent.

Lawrence Watts, defending, drew parallels with a Premiership game last Saturday in which Arsenal's Aaron Ramsey had his leg badly broken by a tackle by a Stoke City defender who is not facing criminal charges.

Jailed: Mark Chapman repeatedly stomped on a Sunday league football opponent
Jailed: Mark Chapman's challenge shattered Terry Johnson's leg in two places

But Judge Robert Orme rejected the suggestion and said it was a totally different situation.

'This is a deliberate act, a premeditated act,' he said. 'A football match gives no one any excuse to carry out wanton violence.'

He added that what he branded a 'quite crazy and mad challenge' had to be considered a 'very deliberate criminal act'.

Mr Johnson welcomed the unprecedented sentence, adding: 'It's ruined my life, I will never be able to play football again.

'As far as I'm concerned he deserved what he got - what goes around comes around.'

While the court did not order him to pay compensation, the victim could sue for damages or make a claim from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Authority.

Last year Mark Ward, 23, was jailed for four months for common assault after he fractured Jonathan Carroll's ankle in a sliding tackle during a Sunday league game in Middlesbrough, but he had also insulted him and stamped on his leg afterwards.

Also last year, West Drayton's Darren Forwood, 21, was jailed for 28 months after admitting manslaughter of rival player Stephen Ritchie, 43, after killing him with a single punch during a bad-tempered amateur match against Brentford in West London.

Sky Sports pundit Chris Kamara, then a Swindon Town player, was convicted of GBH in 1988 after he caught Shrewsbury Town's Jim Melrose with his elbow but was fined £1,200.

Arsenal's Ramsey
Chapman's lawyer drew parallels with a Premiership game last Saturday in which Arsenal's Aaron Ramsey had his leg badly broken by a tackle (pictured) by a Stoke City defender who is not facing criminal charges. But Judge Robert Orme said it was a totally different situation

And in 1995, former Scottish international Duncan Ferguson was jailed for three months for headbutting Raith Rovers' John McStay while playing for Rangers.

A spokesman for the Football Association said: 'It's the first time anyone has been sent to prison for a tackle.

'There have been two cases where people were sent to prison for other incidents on the pitch, but nothing like this.'

Cheers and Beers
Graham\098/
Excellent point Jerry. Thank God every fight isn't... (show quote)


In this country, they are finding that many of our football players have concussions/brain damage, and it starts with high school football. Suggest eliminating football from a high school, and the parents will throw a fit. You'd be better off eliminating science, which many people think is "Fake News."

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May 21, 2017 10:56:43   #
ole sarg Loc: south florida
 
Marciano fought in a different time against different fighters. To think his ring weight was 188 lbs which means he fought at about cruiserweight. Would he have survived against an Ali or Tyson not to mention a Foremen? Probably not.

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May 21, 2017 11:01:12   #
andesbill
 
Forget boxing. Both opponents theoretically have an equal chance.
Coal mining, gold mining in Brazil and South Africa are far more brutal, and far less fair. Then we have cage fighting, extreme sports sponsored by Red Bull, and crazies trying for views on youtube.
But worst of all, infinitely worst is warfare.
Compared with wars going on in Africa and the Mid East, boxing is for toddlers (only in comparison with the worst we humans are capable of).

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May 21, 2017 12:40:14   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
ole sarg wrote:
Marciano fought in a different time against different fighters. To think his ring weight was 188 lbs which means he fought at about cruiserweight. Would he have survived against an Ali or Tyson not to mention a Foremen? Probably not.


He would have beaten them both to a pulp, especially Clay, who spent most of his time dancing around. Tyson was another hitter--that might have been interesting, but not for too long, before Marciano pulverized him.

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May 21, 2017 13:48:26   #
Ka2azman Loc: Tucson, Az
 
The ref had the duty to disqualified him if he broke any rules of the time. The ref didn't, so he was within the rules for any of his hits. At one time they use to box with no gloves and rounds would go on till someone lost, one went 276 rounds in 4 hr 30 min when Jack Jones beat Patsy Tunney in Cheshire in 1825. You can't use today's rules for past legal rules of the day for anything, including boxing. The past is gone, you can't change it.

And for could of, would of or should of is nothing but imaginary fantasies. Someone in the far past to fight someone closer to our time is not going to happen so it is just a waste of hot breath.

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May 22, 2017 00:06:36   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
The only boxer who had similar boxing traits to Rocky Marciano, would be Mike Tyson in his prime.

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May 23, 2017 09:58:45   #
FrankR Loc: NYC
 
Watched it a few times and have to agree with John F. Looks like only one time did he hit his opponent while he was clearly on his way down and that was when they showed him taking the title from Ezzard Charles (which is shown more than once). Boxing is not for the faint of heart and the aim is to beat the hell out of the other guy, knock him senseless if possible. Marciano did that better than anybody but he was not, in your words, a dirty fighter. The video does not support your position. You tell John to watch again with his glasses on. I would suggest you watch again as well. Before visiting your local.

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May 23, 2017 15:26:39   #
Graham Thirkill Loc: Idylic North Yorkshire, England UK.
 
FrankR wrote:
Watched it a few times and have to agree with John F. Looks like only one time did he hit his opponent while he was clearly on his way down and that was when they showed him taking the title from Ezzard Charles (which is shown more than once). Boxing is not for the faint of heart and the aim is to beat the hell out of the other guy, knock him senseless if possible. Marciano did that better than anybody but he was not, in your words, a dirty fighter. The video does not support your position. You tell John to watch again with his glasses on. I would suggest you watch again as well. Before visiting your local.
Watched it a few times and have to agree with John... (show quote)


It must be an American thing, if you can honestly say, that this Marciano guy, only through one foul blow, with hand on heart, you are partly blind too.........It is no good continuing an argument with with blind people......
Have a nice day and enjoy your American type of boxing.
Graham\098/

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