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May 18, 2017 10:41:45   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I admit that I am surprised by your experience with Nikon. I have been using Nikon cameras and lenses for more than 50 years and I have never experienced a problem that made me think of switching to another brand.
The only camera that really pissed me off was a N-6006. That camera used batteries as if there was no tomorrow. Nikon inspected it and told me it was within specs but I disagreed. I ended up with the N-8008 a vastly superior camera in all respects.
One lens, my 80-400 AF-D had a problem with the mount and it was replaced. No issues with the lens ever since. I had a lens once that I thought was a lemon but it was not. A blow, by the previous owner, made some of the optical elements in the lens to become decentered. Once it was repaired it became as good as it always was. I still keep my Nikon F of 1963 in operation and none of my digital cameras, all of them bought second hand, have ever failed.
The D7100 I believe had some issues that were corrected by Nikon. From what I know it is an excellent tool.

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May 18, 2017 10:45:00   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Just Fred wrote:
No ruse. I didn't see your post asking for details, so adding to my previous posts, here is as detailed as I can get: I first noticed the problem after returning from a cruise, where I photographed the Mayan ruins at Tulum, Mexico. Two issues presented themselves: the first, was that when attaching a lens, I could not get any lens to lock into place. I also noticed my 18-140mm lens had a ring that wasn't seated properly. I had not dropped or abused the camera, so I couldn't tell when or how these problems were caused. But I sent them both to Nikon -- the lens was repaired under warranty, but I had to pay for the body repair (the lens "pin") due to "drop damage."

Five months later, I again notice that I could not get lens lock. This affects the auto-focusing mechanism. I wrote to Nikon, anticipating this would fall under their six month repair warranty, but when I sent it to them, they once again said it was due to being dropped.

I have not once dropped any camera I have ever owned. You can take my word on that or not. Your choice. I have been shooting photos since my photojournalism college courses back in the early 1970s. Never banged, dropped, forced or otherwise abused a camera.

On my last trip, also to Tulum, I took my Coolpix P900 and kept it in my stateroom safe when I wasn't carrying it about.

Arguing with Nikon about drop damage is as about as fruitful as trying to teach a pig to sing. Now that the pig is annoyed (my feelings toward Nikon service), I don't want to go that route again.

Since my D7100 is working -- at least the last time I pulled it out, charged it up and shot some photos with it -- I'm thinking that perhaps the best move for me is to go back to the store where I bought it, and explore the possibility of ordering a D7500 and using the D7100 as part of a trade-in. Yes, I'll lose money on the deal, but at least I'll have a new camera body with a full factory warranty on it to go forward.

Sound like a plan?
No ruse. I didn't see your post asking for detail... (show quote)


Take a look at the rest of the camera market. There is a lot happening with mirrorless cameras right now. It ain't happening *as much* with Nikon or Canon as it is with Panasonic, Olympus, Fujifilm, and Sony, however.

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May 18, 2017 10:46:58   #
Nukepr Loc: Citrus County, FL
 
I also had a problem with the lens mount on my D7100. In this case, I could not remove the lens on the camera. After several efforts, I got it off and then found that the locking pin was not functioning properly, so I sent it off for repairs. It was out of warranty, so I paid for the repairs at the authorized Nikon repair facility. Since I had an important event to shoot while the camera was in the shop, I bought a D7200, which I like very much and which is my go-to camera, though I keep the repaired D7100 as a backup. Like other respondents, I have taken lenses off Nikon cameras for years, including the D70, the D5100 and now my two D7xxx bodies and this was the first and only time it happened. I had never dropped the camera or hit the lens, so I can only conclude it was a faulty locking pin system that led to this problem, not camera abuse.

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May 18, 2017 10:54:06   #
Just Fred Loc: Darwin's Waiting Room
 
Nukepr wrote:
I also had a problem with the lens mount on my D7100. In this case, I could not remove the lens on the camera. After several efforts, I got it off and then found that the locking pin was not functioning properly, so I sent it off for repairs. It was out of warranty, so I paid for the repairs at the authorized Nikon repair facility. Since I had an important event to shoot while the camera was in the shop, I bought a D7200, which I like very much and which is my go-to camera, though I keep the repaired D7100 as a backup. Like other respondents, I have taken lenses off Nikon cameras for years, including the D70, the D5100 and now my two D7xxx bodies and this was the first and only time it happened. I had never dropped the camera or hit the lens, so I can only conclude it was a faulty locking pin system that led to this problem, not camera abuse.
I also had a problem with the lens mount on my D71... (show quote)


I too, thought the problem might be with a faulty locking pin. But when Nikon declined to repair it under warranty a second time, that's when my distrust of both the camera and Nikon began. You know, I don't marry a brand. I have multiple brands of guitars, multiple brands of running shoes, and multiple brands of guns. I do have an investment in accessories, however, and moving to another brand of camera now would be quite costly. I bought the Nikon vs. a Canon not out of brand loyalty, but because it just felt better in my hand.

I'm willing to stick with Nikon, but my faith in the brand has been shaken.

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May 18, 2017 10:56:41   #
suntouched Loc: Sierra Vista AZ
 
MadMikeOne wrote:
Fred, read over the 2 sentences above from your OP. Seems to me you have already answered your own question. It seems to me that it is time for you to move on from your D7100. Not only are you not using your D7100, but you will also not get any enjoyment out of it if you should use it again.

My suggestion would be to put it up for sale on eBay, being careful to note that the sale is "as is". Be honest about its history. The camera is of no use to you under the circumstances you indicated.

A possible replacement is the D7200. There are some very good deals on it right now. You could even purchase a refurbished one from Nikon or from one of the A, B, C's. In the interests of full disclosure - I own and enjoy a D7200 (traded up from a D5200 which I still use on a regular basis). The only problems I have had with ANY of my digital cameras has been OE (operator error). It was always caused by some silly thing I did to inadvertently change a setting.

Good luck with whatever you decide, but thems my 2 cents1
Fred, read over the 2 sentences above from your OP... (show quote)


Very sound advice. I was glad you added to sell the camera "as is" on Ebay while being honest about its history. Not everyone does that. I would agree that there isn't any sense in hanging onto a camera that you are afraid to use. That being the case move on- no third chance.

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May 18, 2017 10:58:07   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
Just Fred wrote:
Bob, the first time it happened, the kit lens that came with it (a very nice 18-140mm) also had to be repaired. Although I never dropped it or mishandled it, I am willing to believe that someone cleaning my ship's cabin on a cruise may have accidentally bumped it. However, the second occurrence came about five months later, and no lens was (evidently) involved.

Part of my conundrum comes from Nikon's response to my issue: All repairs are said to be warranted for six months. Believing that my camera fell under warranty repair after less than that, I was a bit put off by Nikon's claim that "damage due to drops" is not warranted, and that I would have to pay for the same repair again. Since I have no way of proving a negative (that I didn't drop the camera), I had no choice but to pony up and pay again.

I won't pay a third time. Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you. The best way to prevent a third occurrence is by not using the camera.
Bob, the first time it happened, the kit lens that... (show quote)


Sell it. Run to Canon and start all over is what I say! And if it happen again it's you, your accident proan. LOL I've been a Canon user for over fifty years and never had an issue with camera or lens!

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May 18, 2017 10:59:11   #
Greenmachine Loc: Chicago, IL
 
Nukepr wrote:
I also had a problem with the lens mount on my D7100. In this case, I could not remove the lens on the camera. After several efforts, I got it off and then found that the locking pin was not functioning properly, so I sent it off for repairs. It was out of warranty, so I paid for the repairs at the authorized Nikon repair facility. Since I had an important event to shoot while the camera was in the shop, I bought a D7200, which I like very much and which is my go-to camera, though I keep the repaired D7100 as a backup. Like other respondents, I have taken lenses off Nikon cameras for years, including the D70, the D5100 and now my two D7xxx bodies and this was the first and only time it happened. I had never dropped the camera or hit the lens, so I can only conclude it was a faulty locking pin system that led to this problem, not camera abuse.
I also had a problem with the lens mount on my D71... (show quote)


Great call!
Yes, our Nikons are generally built tough enough to withstand harsh treatment: Back in the dinosaur days many years ago, my film camera slipped off my shoulder (shoulder strap broke) and fell three feet to the ground
directly on my favorite Nikon lens, a 60mm 1:2 and it cracked the lens like an eggshell, but the camera itself was fine...I agree with you that "camera abuse" is not the ONLY reason a camera may have issues!
Each case must be looked at separately...

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May 18, 2017 10:59:13   #
wapiti Loc: round rock, texas
 
Just Fred wrote:
I too, thought the problem might be with a faulty locking pin. But when Nikon declined to repair it under warranty a second time, that's when my distrust of both the camera and Nikon began. You know, I don't marry a brand. I have multiple brands of guitars, multiple brands of running shoes, and multiple brands of guns. I do have an investment in accessories, however, and moving to another brand of camera now would be quite costly. I bought the Nikon vs. a Canon not out of brand loyalty, but because it just felt better in my hand.

I'm willing to stick with Nikon, but my faith in the brand has been shaken.
I too, thought the problem might be with a faulty ... (show quote)


Lots of positive testimonials, here, including mine. I would stay the course with Nikon, D500 or DF, even a refurbished one. All of my Nikons, with the exception of the D800 were refurbished. No problems, whatsoever.

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May 18, 2017 11:25:26   #
Jeffcs Loc: Myrtle Beach South Carolina
 
Ok thanks for the updates I own the 18-140 excellent lens
I just looked at my lens and not sure what ring your referring to at least it has a chrome claw unless the weather seal is loose
As far as the locking pin on your camera I would think if Nikon found it to be bent it is quite posible your room attendant tried to remove your lens without depressing the unlock button so I would have to agree not warranty however if not a bent pin I'd say Nikon service was wrong in any case your thought of a trade in is a good choice
Good luck

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May 18, 2017 11:27:40   #
Flyerace Loc: Mt Pleasant, WI
 
If there is good new to be had from this apparent "lemon" purchase, the lenses will fit any of the Nikon bodies you might choose. I have had Nikons since 1971, seven of them to be exact. They all perform like workhorses, even though I am an amateur. My first camera, an FTN fell down the stairs at Marble House in Rhode Island. The stairs were marble all the way to the bottom. I thought it was a goner, but, other than a chip out of the lens hood, the camera was perfect. It still operates, if I want to shoot film.

Since you have such an investment in Nikon, get another body, refurbished or new. Enjoy it and make some beautiful memories. Any other camera manufacturer can have the same problems as this poor Nikon. Look at it like the red car you might have purchased so everyone can see you during the day, yet in every parking lot, someone hits or scrapes you. (that is from experience) Good luck and happy shooting!

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May 18, 2017 11:45:45   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
All I can say is that the only damage I've had with my Nikon gear in 30 years was caused by me, myself and I, and was the results of drops and/or falls. If I were working for Nikon, I would also believe that there was no way to break the metal mount, except with abuse, either accidental or on purpose. A camera sitting at home will do you no good. Might as well use it and see what happens, or keep it as a second body and consider a replacement, perhaps a D500. The D500 are still available with a $ 200 discount and a free battery grip, at least at B&H. Best of luck.

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May 18, 2017 11:49:19   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Sell the lot and go mirrorless.

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May 18, 2017 11:49:27   #
njarendt Loc: wisconsin
 
Agree with all. I have used Nikon exclusively for about 40 plus years first in film and now digital and use the D7200 as my go to camera now. Never any camera problems that were not operator error. My cameras have traveled on cruise ships, out of country, and around the country. Suggest that it is a lemon and trade up to a D7200 or a used D7100. Know several locals that use the D7100 - no problems.

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May 18, 2017 11:53:21   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Just Fred wrote:
No ruse. I didn't see your post asking for details, so adding to my previous posts, here is as detailed as I can get: I first noticed the problem after returning from a cruise, where I photographed the Mayan ruins at Tulum, Mexico. Two issues presented themselves: the first, was that when attaching a lens, I could not get any lens to lock into place. I also noticed my 18-140mm lens had a ring that wasn't seated properly. I had not dropped or abused the camera, so I couldn't tell when or how these problems were caused. But I sent them both to Nikon -- the lens was repaired under warranty, but I had to pay for the body repair (the lens "pin") due to "drop damage."

Five months later, I again notice that I could not get lens lock. This affects the auto-focusing mechanism. I wrote to Nikon, anticipating this would fall under their six month repair warranty, but when I sent it to them, they once again said it was due to being dropped.

I have not once dropped any camera I have ever owned. You can take my word on that or not. Your choice. I have been shooting photos since my photojournalism college courses back in the early 1970s. Never banged, dropped, forced or otherwise abused a camera.

On my last trip, also to Tulum, I took my Coolpix P900 and kept it in my stateroom safe when I wasn't carrying it about.

Arguing with Nikon about drop damage is as about as fruitful as trying to teach a pig to sing. Now that the pig is annoyed (my feelings toward Nikon service), I don't want to go that route again.

Since my D7100 is working -- at least the last time I pulled it out, charged it up and shot some photos with it -- I'm thinking that perhaps the best move for me is to go back to the store where I bought it, and explore the possibility of ordering a D7500 and using the D7100 as part of a trade-in. Yes, I'll lose money on the deal, but at least I'll have a new camera body with a full factory warranty on it to go forward.

Sound like a plan?
No ruse. I didn't see your post asking for detail... (show quote)

Definitely sounds like a good plan! You will have a new camera body, and the factory warranty behind it. It is tough to deal with a situation like yours, but hopefully you will get it behind you and move forward!

Despite all the positive testimonials, Nikon does have the occasional lemons. And manufacturing defects that can be corrected. Otherwise they would not have refurbished cameras and lenses to sell! [Granted some of those have been returns that are basically "out of the box", or have been used for demos.] All manufacturers have this happen, and when dealing with large quantities being produced, an individual "glitch" is difficult to detect.

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May 18, 2017 11:55:44   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Unless it happened with a heavy non supported lens (which it did not), and Nikon refuses to replace it, only one option left before giving up the ghost and putting out more money. That would be to take it back to where you bought it and ask them to make it right. Don't give up on Nikon , they are great cameras, and we all know that anything can go wrong on the assembly line and cause a piece of equipment to be faulty. I am dealing with that on my pickup truck right now.

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