Nikon, Canon and the new Sony a9
Apr 21, 2017 12:57:21 #
azted
Loc: Las Vegas, NV.
Has nothing to do with your critique of Cholly, or Sony. You used the article to support your hypothesis, and with just one look, you failed!
Apr 21, 2017 13:03:47 #
Desert Gecko wrote:
Canon does a lot right, which makes it number one.... (show quote)
Canon decided to continue using their own sensors because they were fully aware their would be a controlling monopoly if they bought from Sony. There is already plenty of talk where Sony had decided to only share some of their sensors and that leaves companies like Nikon a little on edge. It's rumored Nikon has been held back partially by this new condition from Sony.
Say as will but many times great pictures don't need great sensors. They need great photographers. Many award winning images have expressed excellence by lighting and composition and by limited dynamic range. People that are too hung up on tech and complain that hardware isn't good enough often can't take a picture if their life depended on it. My aged 5D III continues to outperform my abilities. Ansel Adams said it best,
“The single most important component of a camera is the twelve inches behind it.”
Sorry Cholly, didn't mean to derail your Sony advertisement.
Apr 21, 2017 13:25:32 #
Haydon wrote:
Say as will but many times great pictures don't ne... (show quote)
I sense that the older one gets the more one is set in his or her ways, but this post should be made a sticky on UHH.
Excellent post!
Apr 21, 2017 13:31:19 #
Dalek wrote:
I cannot imagine a better image than the ones I get from my D810. If the camera was upgraded, it would have to have ground-breaking improvements. As far as action shots such as motocross or birds in flight I am TOTALLY satisfied with my current D5 and D500. As far as Nikon glass I have no complaints. If I was starting out today, I would really have to research the new Sony as related to my style of shooting. I am sure it is a good camera but at the price.. compared to a D500.... Hmm.
What in the world made you purchase a D5? I am sure it is a good camera but at the price.. compared to a D500....
Hmm.
Just kidding with you. The A9 is targeting the 2 pro cameras not the D500
Apr 21, 2017 14:00:01 #
Erik_H wrote:
With Sony's announcement of the a9 and it's very impressive spec sheet I can't help but wonder if Nikon and Canon are ever going to respond with a serious mirrorless camera. The a9 looks to be aimed at pro, full frame shooters and I think it could really take a bite out of the DSLR market. While I have no plans to go mirrorless -hell, I still shoot film- I'd like to hear other's thoughts on the issue.
Definitely aimed at the Pro marketplace. The specs are impressive but I'll stick with my A7R II and A7S.
bwa
Apr 21, 2017 14:04:06 #
My opinions:
-In five years or less mirrorless will dominate almost all the market niches held by Nikon and Canon.
-Full frame is going to be squeezed from both below (APS-C) and from above (4cm x 3cm such as Fuji GFX50).
-Entry level DSLR (sucks D3x00) will survive longer than expected because development costs are already spent and existing lenses are more than adequate while Fuji and Sony won't be able to reduce costs at the low end enough to be competitive for some time.
--Within the same five years the super expensive ($20-50k) medium format market is going to feel pressure from Fuji and the new Hasselblad mirrorless MF.
-In five years or less mirrorless will dominate almost all the market niches held by Nikon and Canon.
-Full frame is going to be squeezed from both below (APS-C) and from above (4cm x 3cm such as Fuji GFX50).
-Entry level DSLR (sucks D3x00) will survive longer than expected because development costs are already spent and existing lenses are more than adequate while Fuji and Sony won't be able to reduce costs at the low end enough to be competitive for some time.
--Within the same five years the super expensive ($20-50k) medium format market is going to feel pressure from Fuji and the new Hasselblad mirrorless MF.
Apr 21, 2017 14:10:24 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
tdekany wrote:
What in the world made you purchase a D5? I am sure it is a good camera but at the price.. compared to a D500....
Hmm.
Just kidding with you. The A9 is targeting the 2 pro cameras not the D500
Hmm.
Just kidding with you. The A9 is targeting the 2 pro cameras not the D500
The A9 is not a truly pro camera because it lacks not one fast prime telephoto lens in the E mount. Advantage Nikon and Canon.
Apr 21, 2017 14:33:30 #
Peterff wrote:
Yes, I know all of that, it is old news and not relevant.
ACTUALLY, it's as relevant as ANY discussion of Canon or Nikon history... ESPECIALLY when "Sony is new to this game" is mentioned in that context.
Sony is NOT new to this, as it totally absorbed a company that has been in the photography business since the 1920's.
Apr 21, 2017 14:37:09 #
Apr 21, 2017 14:42:06 #
CHOLLY wrote:
Those Nikon cameras you love ALL have Sony sensors... (show quote)
Every single one? Nope. The sensors in the D2h, D3, D4, Df, and the D5 are made by Nikon. As well as the D3100, D3200, and D3300.
Apr 21, 2017 14:45:40 #
Peterff wrote:
Cholly, you are not a professional research person... (show quote)
Actually Peter, I AM a professional research person. Got the degrees and work experience to prove it too.
Everyone here loves their gear; it's human nature. Because I am more enthusiastic that makes me a shill? Well, when I read what the other companies are offering, then listen to their consumers bad mouth SUPERIOR Sony products, what does that make them?
Oh... and if you want to split hairs about digital recordings of analogue signals, I go you one better; by that standard ALL DIGITAL CAMERAS DIGITALLY RECORD ANALOGUE SIGNALS.
Every single one of them.
Apr 21, 2017 14:48:37 #
billnikon wrote:
The A9 is not a truly pro camera because it lacks not one fast prime telephoto lens in the E mount. Advantage Nikon and Canon.
Yes, but those nice Canon and Nikon lenses can be used quite nicely on E-mount cameras!
bwa
Apr 21, 2017 14:57:17 #
Erik_H wrote:
Every single one? Nope. The sensors in the D2h, D3, D4, Df, and the D5 are made by Nikon. As well as the D3100, D3200, and D3300.
I'm sorry, and I do NOT mean to be disrespectful... but if you go back and read my post as well as the post it contained in quote form, you will see that what I typed is 100% correct.
Again, no disrespect intended Erik...
As for the D5, well; click on THIS LINK
Apr 21, 2017 14:58:41 #
bwana wrote:
Yes, but those nice Canon and Nikon lenses can be used quite nicely on E-mount cameras!
bwa
bwa
VERY true.
Which is WHY so many canikon users are switching over to Sony........
Apr 21, 2017 15:21:49 #
Peterff wrote:
Yes, I know all of that, it is old news and not relevant.
Not relevant because the inventor of digital photography went bankrupt due to digital photography.
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