Nikon, Canon and the new Sony a9
Apr 20, 2017 23:11:54 #
I don't think the A9 will sell in great numbers. Undoubtedly a few affluent hobbyists with money to burn will buy it, but they are a relatively small group of photographers.
Apr 20, 2017 23:13:23 #
Desert Gecko wrote:
"Where was Sony then and where is Minolta now... (show quote)
I think you're also forgetting the APS-C sensor in the 80D as another example. Yes Canon has fluked their company to be number one for a long time and Amazon has been fluking Canon's 5D4 as the best selling full-frame since September of 2016. Don't you wish you were a fluke :)
Apr 20, 2017 23:22:26 #
Peterff wrote:
I agree, but if they did it would be the best fit....
Now if Nikon were to buy Sony's camera division...
Apr 20, 2017 23:55:17 #
Erik_H wrote:
Now if Nikon were to buy Sony's camera division...
I doubt they can afford to. Look at the numbers in the annual reports....
Apr 21, 2017 05:21:18 #
Erik_H wrote:
With Sony's announcement of the a9 and it's very impressive spec sheet I can't help but wonder if Nikon and Canon are ever going to respond with a serious mirrorless camera. The a9 looks to be aimed at pro, full frame shooters and I think it could really take a bite out of the DSLR market. While I have no plans to go mirrorless -hell, I still shoot film- I'd like to hear other's thoughts on the issue.
I agree, this could proof for the first time some competition. I know Canon is currently working on a mirror less full frame, but I have my doubts, it will come close to the specs of the Sony, but never less, a lot of photographers will never let go of the DSLR's!
Apr 21, 2017 05:58:38 #
I cannot imagine a better image than the ones I get from my D810. If the camera was upgraded, it would have to have ground-breaking improvements. As far as action shots such as motocross or birds in flight I am TOTALLY satisfied with my current D5 and D500. As far as Nikon glass I have no complaints. If I was starting out today, I would really have to research the new Sony as related to my style of shooting. I am sure it is a good camera but at the price.. compared to a D500.... Hmm. Starting anew Canon would be a more viable contender.
The mirrorless are supposed to be smaller. I do not want smaller as my hands shake a bit due to aging and I like a heavy camera that allows me to settle into the shot. In fact I like putting the extra battery-holding vertical grip on all my cameras.
To all Sony shooter's enjoy your new body as it sounds pretty good.
The mirrorless are supposed to be smaller. I do not want smaller as my hands shake a bit due to aging and I like a heavy camera that allows me to settle into the shot. In fact I like putting the extra battery-holding vertical grip on all my cameras.
To all Sony shooter's enjoy your new body as it sounds pretty good.
Apr 21, 2017 06:33:59 #
jethro779 wrote:
At $4500.00 it will never be in my hands. But I am cheap.
This is still less $$$ than the Leica SL 601 TYP which sells for $7,400 body only. Sony still needs to make their menu system more user friendly.
Apr 21, 2017 06:34:53 #
Remember that Minolta (Konica Minolta) is doing quite well. Arguably they make the best high end printers and advanced medical imaging devices. Just in a different part of the "picture" business.
Apr 21, 2017 06:39:28 #
jethro779 wrote:
At $4500.00 it will never be in my hands. But I am cheap.
Same here.
Apr 21, 2017 06:53:12 #
Apr 21, 2017 07:06:26 #
Erik_H wrote:
Now if Nikon were to buy Sony's camera division...
After they borrowed money from Canon.
Apr 21, 2017 08:30:26 #
Erik_H wrote:
With Sony's announcement of the a9 and it's very impressive spec sheet I can't help but wonder if Nikon and Canon are ever going to respond with a serious mirrorless camera. The a9 looks to be aimed at pro, full frame shooters and I think it could really take a bite out of the DSLR market. While I have no plans to go mirrorless -hell, I still shoot film- I'd like to hear other's thoughts on the issue.
Most people when they read the specs don't pay attention to the footnotes. Many of the so called wow features of the A9 have a footnote to them that takes some of that wow away. We will have to wait and see until the camera gets into the hands of many pro shooters to see if the camera can meet those wow features.
Apr 21, 2017 09:38:00 #
Desert Gecko wrote:
Specs on the a9 are so good I doubt anyone would c... (show quote)
^^^THIS.
Looking at sales data Sony has already overtaken Nikon in sales of Full Frame cameras and is rapidly gaining on Canon.
Since Sony is one of only a couple of camera manufacturers to turn an actual profit the last couple of years, the whole discussion about them TRYING to play in the big leagues is moot.
Nikon is losing cash AND market position at a record pace. Canon continues it's S.O.P. of offering ONE new feature, slapping on another "I" or "10" and charging 15% more for the SAME OLD TECHNOLOGY.
Eventually Canon consumers wise up, pull the wool from over their eyes and snatch that bag off their heads... EVENTUALLY. And when that day comes they will DEMAND more from their company of choice. They will DEMAND from Canon what SONY HAS BEEN GIVING IT'S CUSTOMERS FOR YEARS and if big "C" doesn't respond... well; it will go the way of the Dodo bird..................
Apr 21, 2017 09:45:54 #
Peterff wrote:
Yep, I agree with that also. This is a long game ... (show quote)
Peter, Minolta was one of the top three. And in the 60's, 70's, and 80's, it jockeyed back and forth with canikon for #1, #2, or #3.
Minolta not only made EXCELLENT cameras... so good that Leica partnered with them... but also EXCELLENT glass. Which Leica AGAIN partnered with them to both design, produce, and market. A LOT of prized Leica lenses are the result of that collaboration. Do you know what the "M" in Leica M mount stood for?
When Sony took over Minolta in 2006, they did so, lock, stock, and barrel. They bought patents, designs, manufacturing facilities and the engineers that ran the place. So Minolta actually lives on... through Sony.
Apr 21, 2017 09:51:51 #
Peterff wrote:
Different perspective. Sony couldn't build a stil... (show quote)
Peter, Sony was one of the pioneers of the digital photography industry. Their first still digital was produced back in 1981 and it was revolutionary for the time. In effect, SONY dictated the market and gave film manufacturers the incentive to get into consumer oriented digital photography.
Look it up.
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