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Apr 20, 2017 21:59:06   #
Just Trying To Focus Loc: Jackson County, Michigan
 
JohnnyMac wrote:
I have a Canon Rebel -- 5/6 years old -- with 18-50, 70-300 and 18-200 lenses. Am considering upgrading the body but wondering
if I should consider mirrorless and if so, will my present lenses work with mirrorless.


I have both Sony mirrorless system and Canon dslr system. I've found that I use my mirrorless camera for things inside, and the dslr system for things outside, because I like to use a zoom a lot outside. There really aren't any LONG zoom lens options for my Sony camera. I've also found that there are fewer low budget lens options for the Sony mirrorless.

Unless you really want the smaller size and portability of the mirrorless, it might be advantageous to stay with an slr body and use your current lenses.

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Apr 20, 2017 21:59:21   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
markjay wrote:
go for a Canon M5.
Dont let anyone tell you otherwise.
Great specs. Great camera. And with an adapter - you can use your old lenses.
plus the M lenses - while limited range - are small, light and excellent.


I second this and all your current lenses will work just fine with it and you can use the old FD, FL and R mechanical lenses on it as well.
Also the EOS lenses are 100% compatible no matter how old they are and will work just fine with the M5.

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Apr 20, 2017 22:02:46   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
CO wrote:
An optical viewfinder displays everything at the speed of light. There's zero chance that fast action will result in blur using the viewfinder.


Fast action results in a blur because of either camera motion and/or too slow a shutter speed. It has nothing to do with the viewfinder.

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Apr 20, 2017 22:09:04   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
imagemeister wrote:
This is what people using OVF's keep telling themselves - trying to make themselves believe it ........


I own Nikons and Fujis. I would never have the temerity to advise someone about a Canon or a Sony, but people who have never handled a mirrorless have no problem holding forth on the deficiencies of mirrorless cameras. Curious!

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Apr 20, 2017 22:27:40   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
CatMarley wrote:
I own Nikons and Fujis. I would never have the temerity to advise someone about a Canon or a Sony, but people who have never handled a mirrorless have no problem holding forth on the deficiencies of mirrorless cameras. Curious!


Amen Cat.

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Apr 20, 2017 23:09:04   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
CO wrote:
An optical viewfinder displays everything at the speed of light. There's zero chance that fast action will result in blur using the viewfinder.


That is NOT My point ........not even close .....

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Apr 20, 2017 23:14:05   #
markjay
 
Bravo !

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Apr 21, 2017 03:26:57   #
lateron Loc: Yorkshire, England
 
markjay wrote:
with a canon adapter - they do autofocus.


I use the adaptors all the time with my Panasonic and my Olympus - They DO autofocus!!

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Apr 21, 2017 03:56:56   #
rbfanman
 
Mirrorless is not an upgrade. It is a sidegrade. It has benefits, and detriments; like all other systems. If you prefer the benefits, and can accept the detriments, go with it. Otherwise, do not. Mirrorless can be smaller, lighterweight, and easier to carry, which will also produce more DOF; due to the smaller sensor...making for less Bokeh. A FF mirrorless will not have so much Bokeh loss, but will be as big, heavy, etc, as an SLR. If you do mostly landscapes, get a small mirrorless...a "One Inch", or a "Micro Four Thirds", or whatever, system. If you shoot mostly portraits, get a Full Frame camera...DSLR, or Mirrorless, as you prefer. Just because manufacturers hawk some new gizmo, or Fan Boys tout it, does not make it better than what you already have.

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Apr 21, 2017 04:16:17   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
rbfanman wrote:
Mirrorless is not an upgrade. It is a sidegrade. It has benefits, and detriments; like all other systems. If you prefer the benefits, and can accept the detriments, go with it. Otherwise, do not. Mirrorless can be smaller, lighterweight, and easier to carry, which will also produce more DOF; due to the smaller sensor...making for less Bokeh. A FF mirrorless will not have so much Bokeh loss, but will be as big, heavy, etc, as an SLR. If you do mostly landscapes, get a small mirrorless...a "One Inch", or a "Micro Four Thirds", or whatever, system. If you shoot mostly portraits, get a Full Frame camera...DSLR, or Mirrorless, as you prefer. Just because manufacturers hawk some new gizmo, or Fan Boys tout it, does not make it better than what you already have.
Mirrorless is not an upgrade. It is a sidegrade. I... (show quote)


Mirrorless is not just a "new gizmo". The changing world is going digital and electronic and solid state for all the right reasons, and will continue to abandon shorter lived and more expensive, wasteful mechanical applications. In the not so distant future DSLRs will be regarded as museum pieces. In the meantime please continue to enjoy them if you prefer.

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Apr 21, 2017 04:30:26   #
markjay
 
yes - for all those vested in DSLR's - you will find that you are in the dark ages within 3 years.
No different than those that thought film would dominate forever.
You cant stop the progress and you are hanging on to old tech if you dont move on to a mirrorless

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Apr 21, 2017 04:35:18   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
rbfanman wrote:
Mirrorless is not an upgrade. It is a sidegrade. It has benefits, and detriments; like all other systems. If you prefer the benefits, and can accept the detriments, go with it. Otherwise, do not. Mirrorless can be smaller, lighterweight, and easier to carry, which will also produce more DOF; due to the smaller sensor...making for less Bokeh. A FF mirrorless will not have so much Bokeh loss, but will be as big, heavy, etc, as an SLR. If you do mostly landscapes, get a small mirrorless...a "One Inch", or a "Micro Four Thirds", or whatever, system. If you shoot mostly portraits, get a Full Frame camera...DSLR, or Mirrorless, as you prefer. Just because manufacturers hawk some new gizmo, or Fan Boys tout it, does not make it better than what you already have.
Mirrorless is not an upgrade. It is a sidegrade. I... (show quote)


#denial

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Apr 21, 2017 07:01:30   #
CO
 
CatMarley wrote:
Fast action results in a blur because of either camera motion and/or too slow a shutter speed. It has nothing to do with the viewfinder.


I meant blur in the EVF screen when panning or when something is moving through the scene quickly. I noticed that with the Sony mirrorless I used three years ago. I'm going to take a look at the latest cameras.

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Apr 21, 2017 08:08:11   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Delderby wrote:
In the not so distant future DSLRs will be regarded as museum pieces. In the meantime please continue to enjoy them if you prefer.



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Apr 21, 2017 08:22:33   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
rbfanman wrote:
Mirrorless is not an upgrade. It is a sidegrade. It has benefits, and detriments; like all other systems. If you prefer the benefits, and can accept the detriments, go with it. Otherwise, do not. Mirrorless can be smaller, lighterweight, and easier to carry, which will also produce more DOF; due to the smaller sensor...making for less Bokeh. A FF mirrorless will not have so much Bokeh loss, but will be as big, heavy, etc, as an SLR. If you do mostly landscapes, get a small mirrorless...a "One Inch", or a "Micro Four Thirds", or whatever, system. If you shoot mostly portraits, get a Full Frame camera...DSLR, or Mirrorless, as you prefer. Just because manufacturers hawk some new gizmo, or Fan Boys tout it, does not make it better than what you already have.
Mirrorless is not an upgrade. It is a sidegrade. I... (show quote)


You obviously do not have one! If you did, you would be better informed.

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