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Nikon 18-300: f6.3 vs. f5.6?
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Apr 20, 2017 14:10:21   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
StanRP wrote:
Correct:

The 18-300 f/5.6 was released June 2012

The 18-300 f/6.3 was released April 2014

The f/5.6 has VR - the f/6.3 has VRII


StanRP


So the one you have IS the 5.6? And the VRII is an improved system? Is the f6.3 that much of an issue?

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Apr 20, 2017 14:14:53   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Kfallsfotoman wrote:
But if I was in a crunch and only could afford the Tamron I would go for it!

If you're traveling - and that is main reason for the lens - having one lens that covers this range would make life a lot easier.

Another point - especially if traveling - is size and weight. From a handling standpoint I seem to recall the Tamron was smaller and lighter than the nikon.


Not a huge price difference between the Tamron and the Nikon (f6.3). Not that concerned about size and weight. Again, not too much difference here, either.

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Apr 20, 2017 14:20:03   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Thomas902 wrote:
kb6kgx the Sigma 17-50 f/2.8 OS EX HSM is the only Sigma optic in my Nikon DX kit... It is Pro Level glass and Nikon actually brought legal action against Sigma during the period this was rolled out for infringement on their VR design... enough said...

As for the 18-300mm (both versions) save your money and pick up the new Pulse Stepper Focus Motor AF-P 70-300mm f/4.5-6.3E ED VR optic... It totally blows both of these older "Super Zooms" out of the water... I'm selling mine before their worth plummets.

Don't take my word here... Everyone who uses this new Pulse Stepper Motor variant is amazed at the acuity and focus speed...
I shot a soccer match with it last week and it focuses faster than my 200-500mm f/5.6 nearly as fast as the ionic AF-S 70-200 f/2.8 and the acuity is superb! This lens is a major game changer for Nikon who is obviously going after the lucrative video market since this lens is virtually silent...

Unbelievable since the price point on a White Box is $208 and for a 5 year Nikon Warranty variant it's only $395... The 18-300mm variants are simply an unwise choice at this juncture... they are way worse in acuity and focus speed and way too heavy... Nikon has put a shot across Canon's bow with their new Pulse Stepper Motor optic... and are serious about video now...
kb6kgx the Sigma 17-50 f/2.8 OS EX HSM is the only... (show quote)


I'd read that the AF-P is not compatible with the D7100. Is that not the case? You don't mind the cheaper "feel" of this lens?

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Apr 20, 2017 15:34:33   #
StanRP Loc: Ontario Canada
 
kb6kgx wrote:
So the one you have IS the 5.6? And the VRII is an improved system? Is the f6.3 that much of an issue?


The one I have is the 6.3 - that has the VRII

For me the f/6.3 was not an issue. Both of them are good lens.

StanRP

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Apr 20, 2017 15:53:22   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
StanRP wrote:
The one I have is the 6.3 - that has the VRII

For me the f/6.3 was not an issue. Both of them are good lens.

StanRP


Thanks. Good to know.

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Apr 20, 2017 17:12:27   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
kb6kgx wrote:
After much consideration and question-asking, here on UHH, time is almost up for decision making.

I had pretty much decided on the Sigma 17-50 and Nikon 70-300. But I'm still about $200 short to get both of those. So, I'm thinking that, since what I want these for is for mostly travel purposes, and to only have to deal with ONE lens, that my present needs would be better served with the 18-300.

As for the 18-300, I can get the f6.3 version NOW. I don't know if the f5.6 version is worth another $300 for just something bigger and heavier. The f5.6, which is older, has a few more lens elements than the f6.3, and both have 3 ED and three aspheric elements. So, I would think that image quality would be the same.

This may be a silly question, but the f5.6 has a 77mm filter size, while the f6.3 has a 67mm size. How significant is that, other than the cost of the filters?

Lastly, how does the Tamron 16-300 compare with the Nikon? It's $100 cheaper, compared to the f6.3, but if I got the Tamron, would I be sorry and wished I'd gotten the Nikon?

Sorry for all the continuing questions, but I want to get something that will work for me.
After much consideration and question-asking, here... (show quote)


So the f5.6 gathers (77/67)^2 = 1.32, or 32%, more light to start. And f5.6 means about a stop faster at 300mm, where it matters.

But the VR might be better on the new Nikon.

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Apr 20, 2017 17:15:50   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
kb6kgx wrote:
I'd read that the AF-P is not compatible with the D7100. Is that not the case? You don't mind the cheaper "feel" of this lens?


The VR version gets good reviews. I am considering one because it weighs half my 28-300.

I am not sure about the 7100 but I read somwhere it will work with my D5300 with a firmware update. That might also be true for the D7100.

Walmart has it for $200. Probably grey market but maybe worth it.

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Apr 20, 2017 17:41:23   #
scott42946 Loc: Alabama
 
kb6kgx wrote:
Just want to clarify. I believe that the 5.6 is the older one and the 6.3 is the newer one.


You are SO correct!! My mea culpa.

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Apr 20, 2017 17:43:41   #
JR45 Loc: Montgomery County, TX
 
I have been using the 18-300 f6.3 as walk about on my D7200 since last August.
It works for me.

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Apr 20, 2017 18:07:47   #
StanRP Loc: Ontario Canada
 
MtnMan wrote:
So the f5.6 gathers (77/67)^2 = 1.32, or 32%, more light to start. And f5.6 means about a stop faster at 300mm, where it matters.

But the VR might be better on the new Nikon.


So the f5.6 gathers (77/67)^2 = 1.32, or 32%, more light to start. And f5.6 means about a stop faster at 300mm, where it matters. But the VR might be better on the new Nikon.

For me, at 300mm having the aperture at the 'sweet spot' of about f/8 is more important than max possible light.
Of course, this applies to the f/5.6 as well. When a shallow depth of field is important - then the f/5.6 has a slight edge.

Both of them are good lens.

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Apr 20, 2017 19:22:42   #
PeterDragon Loc: Harlan, KY - Kona, HI - Phoenix, AZ
 
Tommy II wrote:
The Tamron 16-300 is a nice lens. I bought one last month. And it's been in my Nikon D7000 since. I kept my Nikon 50mm f/1.4and 35mm f/1.8, and sold my other Nikon lenses. I'm not a Pro, but to my eye, it takes beautiful, clear pictures. I bought it from B&H for $549.00, but Adorama and Cameta have it for the same price. If you're not s Pro, and you want to quit buying all these lenses, grab one. You'll really like it. Filters are 67mm.



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Apr 20, 2017 19:24:26   #
PeterDragon Loc: Harlan, KY - Kona, HI - Phoenix, AZ
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It was nice of you to bring your daughter with you.



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Apr 20, 2017 21:53:45   #
2Much Loc: WA
 
kb6kgx wrote:
I'd read that the AF-P is not compatible with the D7100. Is that not the case? You don't mind the cheaper "feel" of this lens?


The product overview for the AF-P 70-300mm lens on B&H says it is compatible with D7000-series cameras from the D7100 and later.

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Apr 20, 2017 22:18:07   #
Allen D S
 
I suspect there is a bigger difference between photographers than between the Nikon and Tamron lenses.

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Apr 20, 2017 22:19:50   #
2Much Loc: WA
 
[quote=Thomas902]pick up the new Pulse Stepper Focus Motor AF-P 70-300mm f/4.5-6.3E ED VR optic... It totally blows both of these older "Super Zooms" out of the water... quote]

How is the IQ at the 300mm end of that lens, Thomas?
I have the original non-VR FX version and (in addition to being slow to focus) it's not very sharp in the 200-300 mm range.

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