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More Focus Stacking experiments - Advice requested
Mar 30, 2017 02:19:10   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Yesterday and today I tried some more focus stacking. I stopped using the focus rail and went to progressive focus, using the ribbed rubber focus ring and a mark on the lens barrel. I took the focus rail off and replaced the Slik 3 way pan and tilt head with a Manfrotto 3 way geared head, much easier to frame etc. Still too uneven and I got out of focus banding in places, also too hard to keep the focus change as small as it should be. I really must get software to control the AF and do the proper number of frames to stack.
However, in much of each image the IQ is very good. And overall I like the images in so far as composition etc.
But, I got large areas of blur, blanks in the image and some more multiple edges, including jagged hard edged areas. What appears to be halos of almost shadow in places.

Does anyone have advice as to what it is and how to avoid it?

three images in order taken and with differing crops and PP. Al work done in LR, PS and a bit of NIK Viveza. After reading more of the instructions and watching the tutorials I will do more experiments with Franzis FOCUS Project Pro.

Natural Light, slow shutter speed, doesn't stop micro movement due to air moving
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Back to flash, getting rainbows in places
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Went in much closer
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Mar 30, 2017 02:53:05   #
Ernie Misner Loc: Lakewood, WA
 
Looks like you are doing some great focus stacking! Do I understand that you blended these yourself in PS?

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Mar 30, 2017 03:19:47   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Ernie Misner wrote:
Looks like you are doing some great focus stacking! Do I understand that you blended these yourself in PS?


Thanks for the compliment.
Yes I used LR and PS: in LR select the images to stack, go to Photos>Edit in>Open as layers in photoshop; wait while it loads all the images. Then in PS go to layers and select all the images>Edit>Auto-Align layers... Wait for it to finish and then select Auto-blend layers... Wait for it to finish, PP in PS or save to LR and PP there, or a combo of both.

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Mar 30, 2017 05:42:33   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
robertjerl wrote:
Yesterday and today I tried some more focus stacking. I stopped using the focus rail and went to progressive focus, using the ribbed rubber focus ring and a mark on the lens barrel. I took the focus rail off and replaced the Slik 3 way pan and tilt head with a Manfrotto 3 way geared head, much easier to frame etc. Still too uneven and I got out of focus banding in places, also too hard to keep the focus change as small as it should be. I really must get software to control the AF and do the proper number of frames to stack.
However, in much of each image the IQ is very good. And overall I like the images in so far as composition etc.
But, I got large areas of blur, blanks in the image and some more multiple edges, including jagged hard edged areas. What appears to be halos of almost shadow in places.

Does anyone have advice as to what it is and how to avoid it?

three images in order taken and with differing crops and PP. Al work done in LR, PS and a bit of NIK Viveza. After reading more of the instructions and watching the tutorials I will do more experiments with Franzis FOCUS Project Pro.
Yesterday and today I tried some more focus stacki... (show quote)


Another interesting set. I can't practice focus stacking now because the dandelions aren't out yet.

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Mar 30, 2017 12:36:27   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Another interesting set. I can't practice focus stacking now because the dandelions aren't out yet.


Thanks
Ah! Too bad, I could mail you some seeds and you grow them in pots indoors. I'll give you a good price on the seeds, honest.

Search the attic, basement, garage, wood pile and find some hibernating/ critters. Set everything up bring the critter in and put in front of the camera and take the shots before it warms up and takes off. I'm sure you can get away with it, maybe a few days of "time out" for letting it loose in the house.

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Mar 30, 2017 15:35:51   #
WayneT Loc: Paris, TN
 
I've not seen that type of blurring before. The only thing I can think of is that something moved but you would see that on the entire photo if it did.

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Mar 30, 2017 15:52:07   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
WayneT wrote:
I've not seen that type of blurring before. The only thing I can think of is that something moved but you would see that on the entire photo if it did.


Some of it may be overlaid multiple shadows from the flash. I will have to shoot a new series and then try different PP options. There are checkboxes on both the align and blend steps. I will also try an LED video light as a steady bright source instead of the flash. Also a different background or one much further away.

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Mar 30, 2017 17:00:10   #
WayneT Loc: Paris, TN
 
I don't us a flash on my stacks I use multiple LED's and get good results.

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Apr 2, 2017 12:04:00   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
robertjerl wrote:
......select Auto-blend layers...


My understanding of focus stacking is that it requires special software to do the merging. My understanding of blended layers is that it'll blend the soft stuff along with the sharp stuff, which would defeat the purpose of focus stacking.

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Apr 2, 2017 22:24:28   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
WayneT wrote:
I don't us a flash on my stacks I use multiple LED's and get good results.

My latest I used a combo of daylight and one LED.

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Apr 2, 2017 22:26:20   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
R.G. wrote:
My understanding of focus stacking is that it requires special software to do the merging. My understanding of blended layers is that it'll blend the soft stuff along with the sharp stuff, which would defeat the purpose of focus stacking.

Auto-blend is what PS calls the stacking app. At least according to their instructions I read in one of those "how too" sites.

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Apr 3, 2017 09:03:20   #
WayneT Loc: Paris, TN
 
Check out this video, I believe she has an answer to your problem:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=how+to+focus+stack+in+photoshop&docid=608011334367315274&mid=D247A82D432C693CFD41D247A82D432C693CFD41&view=detail&FORM=VIREHT

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Apr 3, 2017 12:59:00   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 


I'll check it out next week, taxes this week and working at the train museum this coming weekend.

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Sep 27, 2017 20:22:48   #
papa Loc: Rio Dell, CA
 
For Canon users ONLY. What's Magic Lantern?

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Sep 27, 2017 20:33:35   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
papa wrote:
For Canon users ONLY. What's Magic Lantern?


Sent link via PM.

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