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Mar 26, 2017 14:45:09   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
Ok, I'm reading about my Canon 5d Mark IV. I'm shooting in mostly manual. I come across this sentence and I'm confused. Here is the sentence. "The center point can function down to -3 EV for working in extremely dim lighting." My question is: If your working in dim lighting, wouldn't you be moving the EV +3? Clearly, I'm missing something.

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Mar 26, 2017 14:53:17   #
HEART Loc: God's Country - COLORADO
 
Picture-Correct easy-peazy instr. http://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/what-is-an-f-stop/

Best wishes with your new Canon!

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Mar 26, 2017 15:03:26   #
jimvanells Loc: Augusta, GA
 
I think that comment means your center focus point has a dynamic range of 6 stops. If you exposure is in that range the camera can focus accurately. I have mine set to "no focus, no exposure". I also shoot in manual and keep the exposure meter in the bottom of the viewfinder. I have had my 5d4 for a month and am still working out the details myself. Other Hoggers with more experience, if I'm off base, please let us know.

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Mar 26, 2017 15:08:44   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
HEART wrote:
Picture-Correct easy-peazy instr. http://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/what-is-an-f-stop/

Best wishes with your new Canon!


Thank you for the link.
I understand f stop, aperture, shutter speed, iso, I shoot in manual so I understand the exposure triangle. I was just confused by this sentance.

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Mar 26, 2017 15:09:43   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
jimvanells wrote:
I think that comment means your center focus point has a dynamic range of 6 stops. If you exposure is in that range the camera can focus accurately. I have mine set to "no focus, no exposure". I also shoot in manual and keep the exposure meter in the bottom of the viewfinder. I have had my 5d4 for a month and am still working out the details myself. Other Hoggers with more experience, if I'm off base, please let us know.


That totally makes since. Sometimes I read too much in something and I get stuck there.
Thank you for answering my post.

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Mar 26, 2017 15:14:27   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Tracy B. wrote:
Ok, I'm reading about my Canon 5d Mark IV. I'm shooting in mostly manual. I come across this sentence and I'm confused. Here is the sentence. "The center point can function down to -3 EV for working in extremely dim lighting." My question is: If your working in dim lighting, wouldn't you be moving the EV +3? Clearly, I'm missing something.


In photography, exposure value (EV) is a number that represents a combination of a camera's shutter speed and f-number, such that all combinations that yield the same exposure have the same EV (for any fixed scene luminance). EV normally relates directly to light level required for exposure at a given ISO.

This is a screenshot of MyLightMeter iPhone app... note the matchup of aperture and time for the current ISO and EV number.



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Mar 26, 2017 15:28:37   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
I guess I didn't explain myself that correctly. I know what EV is. The "actual "sentence confused me. "The center point can function down to -3 EV for working in extremely dim lighting." I was thinking "Ok, it's dark why would I move the EV (-) instead of (+)?" I believe jimvanells, answered what I was looking for. Thank you for replying everyone.

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Mar 26, 2017 15:33:49   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Tracy B. wrote:
I guess I didn't explain myself that correctly. I know what EV is. The "actual "sentence confused me. "The center point can function down to -3 EV for working in extremely dim lighting." I was thinking "Ok, it's dark why would I move the EV (-) instead of (+)?" I believe jimvanells, answered what I was looking for. Thank you for replying everyone.


Yes he did! I too thought of exposure compensation...

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Mar 26, 2017 15:34:28   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Tracy B. wrote:
Ok, I'm reading about my Canon 5d Mark IV. I'm shooting in mostly manual. I come across this sentence and I'm confused. Here is the sentence. "The center point can function down to -3 EV for working in extremely dim lighting." My question is: If your working in dim lighting, wouldn't you be moving the EV +3? Clearly, I'm missing something.


Tracy, the Canon literature is referring to EV as an absolute value for a lighting situation that corresponds to a combination of aperture, shutter speed and ISO. A value of -3 EV is F2.8 and 60 secs @ ISO100. Most EV charts are calculated at ISO 100.

http://www.scantips.com/lights/evchart.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposure_value

As the first article explains, of you are using a combination of settings that gives you an EV of 10 and your ISO is set to 100, you would use the 10th row. If you change your ISO to 1600, you would need to use row 14 for your exposure settings, and so on.


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Mar 26, 2017 15:47:52   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
Gene51 wrote:
Tracy, the Canon literature is referring to EV as an absolute value for a lighting situation that corresponds to a combination of aperture, shutter speed and ISO. A value of -3 EV is F2.8 and 60 secs @ ISO100. Most EV charts are calculated at ISO 100.

http://www.scantips.com/lights/evchart.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposure_value

As the first article explains, of you are using a combination of settings that gives you an EV of 10 and your ISO is set to 100, you would use the 10th row. If you change your ISO to 1600, you would need to use row 14 for your exposure settings, and so on.
Tracy, the Canon literature is referring to EV as ... (show quote)


Oh, thank you for the information! So interesting. I can see where I got confused. I'm glad these forums are here to ask questions. I could have looked all day on the Internet and be looking in the wrong direction.

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Mar 26, 2017 15:52:16   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
burkphoto wrote:
Yes he did! I too thought of exposure compensation...


Yes, I'm confusing EV with Exposure Compensation. Oops.

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Mar 26, 2017 16:26:51   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
I think the point of the original sentence was just to say that in low light a/f will continue to work if you use the center point only, even if it fails when using multiple points.

The same is true with Nikon, although I've never seen a specific E/V.

Of course I could be wrong.

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Mar 26, 2017 16:36:05   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
Bill_de wrote:
I think the point of the original sentence was just to say that in low light a/f will continue to work if you use the center point only, even if it fails when using multiple points.

The same is true with Nikon, although I've never seen a specific E/V.

Of course I could be wrong.

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Interesting. I can see that also.

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Mar 26, 2017 16:41:33   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Tracy B. wrote:
That totally makes since. Sometimes I read too much in something and I get stuck there.
Thank you for answering my post.


LoL, now that you understand, go out and take pictures!!!!
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Mar 26, 2017 17:11:00   #
Tracy B. Loc: Indiana
 
SharpShooter wrote:
LoL, now that you understand, go out and take pictures!!!!
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