what constitutes shooting manual mode?
Mar 25, 2017 04:01:12 #
I see a lot of post touting the purity of shooting in manual. so what do they really mean.
my definition of manual is where all functions are chosen by the photographer. the shutter speed, aperture, and iso are chosen by the photographer with no impute from the camera. imagine using an argus c-3 with no hand held meter an only your experience or a printed scale to go by.
I watched 3 different tutorials on u-tube, and all ended up with some form of camera assist, such as auto iso.
so lets be specific, either fully manual, or camera assisted manual.
my definition of manual is where all functions are chosen by the photographer. the shutter speed, aperture, and iso are chosen by the photographer with no impute from the camera. imagine using an argus c-3 with no hand held meter an only your experience or a printed scale to go by.
I watched 3 different tutorials on u-tube, and all ended up with some form of camera assist, such as auto iso.
so lets be specific, either fully manual, or camera assisted manual.
Mar 25, 2017 04:11:51 #
You are correct, but does it really matter? You can find work of art taken on AUTO and snaps using manual control. The end result is the key not how we get there - in my opinion.
Mar 25, 2017 04:25:17 #
tdekany wrote:
You are correct, but does it really matter? You can find work of art taken on AUTO and snaps using manual control. The end result is the key not how we get there - in my opinion.
Well said--I fully agree.
Mar 25, 2017 05:59:28 #
billnikon
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bull drink water wrote:
I see a lot of post touting the purity of shooting... (show quote)
Wow, over 6000 posts and replies and you still don't know? I am starting to be concerned about you. Alzheimer's is something that you should google before it's too late. There is still time for you. God bless and take care.
Mar 25, 2017 08:06:23 #
tdekany wrote:
You are correct, but does it really matter? You can find work of art taken on AUTO and snaps using manual control. The end result is the key not how we get there - in my opinion.
I agree with UHH member tdekany.
Mar 25, 2017 08:09:56 #
tdekany wrote:
You are correct, but does it really matter? You can find work of art taken on AUTO and snaps using manual control. The end result is the key not how we get there - in my opinion.
Mar 25, 2017 08:23:07 #
I often see folks post that they only shoot in manual mode, as if that is some sort of badge of honor. I even read that someone super glues the mode selector set to manual. Kinda silly if you ask me. Why would anyone purposely damage their camera like that?!
Do strict manual shooters also turn off AF, all the time?
When the situation warrants it, I usually set the camera in manual mode but I use the internal light meter to guide me. When timing is an issue and lighting conditions vary, I use aperture priority mode. There are even rare occasions when I use P mode but pretty much never use full auto mode. On the other hand, my wife, who usually uses my 70D, 80D or my 6D, usually uses full auto or P mode, and her photos usually turn out just fine. I have taught her how to adjust ISO when in P mode and shooting indoors, when her photos get to dark. She's not interested in learning how to use exposure compensation. Her logic is, I paid a lot of money for the technology in the camera to make it easier for her to take nice photos. Can't argue with that.
Do strict manual shooters also turn off AF, all the time?
When the situation warrants it, I usually set the camera in manual mode but I use the internal light meter to guide me. When timing is an issue and lighting conditions vary, I use aperture priority mode. There are even rare occasions when I use P mode but pretty much never use full auto mode. On the other hand, my wife, who usually uses my 70D, 80D or my 6D, usually uses full auto or P mode, and her photos usually turn out just fine. I have taught her how to adjust ISO when in P mode and shooting indoors, when her photos get to dark. She's not interested in learning how to use exposure compensation. Her logic is, I paid a lot of money for the technology in the camera to make it easier for her to take nice photos. Can't argue with that.
Mar 25, 2017 08:27:02 #
bull drink water wrote:
I see a lot of post touting the purity of shooting... (show quote)
It's not like using a film camera with no meter. Digital cameras do have meters which are used to help determine which settings to set manually.
Mar 25, 2017 08:39:21 #
JohnSwanda wrote:
It's not like using a film camera with no meter. Digital cameras do have meters which are used to help determine which settings to set manually.
For some combination of digital camera and lens there is no functioning meter.
Mar 25, 2017 08:39:24 #
bull drink water wrote:
I see a lot of post touting the purity of shooting... (show quote)
When I think of totally manual I think of a large format or something like my rangefinder where one also must focus using the distance scale on the lens. However, I also don't think it matters... I just recently began using manual + auto ISO. That's not really manual, but who cares....
Mar 25, 2017 12:17:16 #
it's just that like the raw only shooters, they make a big deal about it. I went to butkus manuals and found my first reflex 35mm camera. the manual contained a shooting chart that covered most shooting situations, at the time I had no meter, that to me was manual shooting. there may be a few of us old codgers left. if you notice the sweet sixteen method was devised for meterless shooting.
Mar 25, 2017 12:29:56 #
bull drink water wrote:
it's just that like the raw only shooters, they make a big deal about it. I went to butkus manuals and found my first reflex 35mm camera. the manual contained a shooting chart that covered most shooting situations, at the time I had no meter, that to me was manual shooting. there may be a few of us old codgers left. if you notice the sweet sixteen method was devised for meterless shooting.
It's the Sunny Sixteen method, and it works best when it's sunny. And it also works best with negative film which has more latitude. Growing up, my father shot family vacation shots on slide film with a 35mm rangefinder with no meter. But as an engineer, he used a hand held meter and always nailed his exposures. I don't think manual means not using a meter, I think it means taking manual meter readings with a camera meter or hand held meter rather than letting the camera make the reading (which they now do very well if you don't have time for manual readings).
Mar 25, 2017 13:12:23 #
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
When I think of totally manual I think of a large format or something like my rangefinder where one also must focus using the distance scale on the lens. However, I also don't think it matters... I just recently began using manual + auto ISO. That's not really manual, but who cares....
If you have the rangefinder you don't have to use the distance scale.
Mar 25, 2017 14:19:59 #
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
When I think of totally manual I think of a large format or something like my rangefinder where one also must focus using the distance scale on the lens. However, I also don't think it matters... I just recently began using manual + auto ISO. That's not really manual, but who cares....
I do, during our last yrs primary some candidates pushed for every one to use the term "radical Islamic terrorist". my push is to get people to use the terms "fully manual" or "camera assisted manual". however I won't accuse you of being soft on anything if you don't.
Mar 26, 2017 05:35:16 #
bull drink water wrote:
I see a lot of post touting the purity of shooting... (show quote)
My definition of manual is, "Oooops. I missed the picture."
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