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Mar 20, 2017 09:13:28   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
Haydon wrote:
A few years ago I saw the visual standout at Arches National Park where very large tablets were held in both hands and rotated clockwise & anti-clockwise to frame the shot. It reminded me of a person driving a car and using the steering wheel. Something just looked wrong about that whole action. It was then I realized times have changed.


I occasionally use my phone for snapshots, but never my tablet. Too damned awkward. I can see how a phone can be convenient, but jeeze, a P&S is more convenient than a tablet if your phone cam sucks. 😜

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Mar 20, 2017 09:24:02   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
I suspect the OP would still complain if everyone else at the tourist attraction was equipped with the best from Leica, Hasselblad, Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Sony or even the old Alpa. I might share some of his feelings occasionally but it is not because of the equipment used; more because of the number of people in the area. I have done a lot of traveling both here in the United States but also all over Europe and other countries. Some people are incredibly rude pushing and shoving to get their photo. But then they leave and the rest of us, no matter the equipment, are left to politely take turns getting into a workable photo position. If you really want rudeness try going to a school function for your 6 year old granddaughter where everyone has a cell phone and raises it above their head to get the photo while you are trying to get your photo taken.

Dennis

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Mar 20, 2017 09:47:48   #
Batman Loc: South-Central Texas
 
mainshipper wrote:
I’m just completing a month long trip around SE Asia and have just about had it with the throngs of smartphone and tablet snap shooters (not photographers) who clog every venue I visited. Personally, I have two iPhones and three iPads but rarely use them for taking anything other than something interesting like a sign or other local oddity and usually just for my records. I do, however, take the occasional selfie and may have someone take a quick tourist shot of my wife and I in front of something noteworthy. Other than that, I use my Canon 5D III with a long enough lens that I can breach the wall of smartphones in front of me. I do recognize that these “tourist” photographers have just as much right to take shots as I do but it’s the way they take those photos that drives me crazy. Here are my main issues.

1. They must always stand a long way from their subject so that the entire background is included. This means that for some length of time the lane between them is technically closed while the photographer (I hate to use that word) fidgets with the camera and/or the subject goes through several modeling poses so that the shoot can be completed. Inevitably, the shooter and subject change places and repeat the process.

2. With groups, everybody wants every picture taken with their camera which means that the particular location is closed for a while. Maybe someone should invent a selfie-stick that holds 4-6 smartphones so that they can get it done with one click.

3. In order to take a picture with a smartphone or tablet you must raise it well above your head in order to get a clear shot and in most cases a small adjustment with your DSLR will get you around them for your shot. The worst situation is the tablet user when they hoist what appears to be equivalent of a large sign up to take their shot. Sometimes I wish they would turn the tablet on selfie mode so they could see the annoyed people behind them. I attended a few cultural performances (water puppet show, etc.) and was steaming when a lady in front of us with an iPad appeared to want to video the entire performance and who was totally oblivious the attendees behind her.

4. Lastly, selfie-sticks are really annoying because they are not just used for selfies but for all of their photos. They walk around with a phone on a three foot pole and in large crowd it is just not that practical.

We unfortunately live in an age where everybody on the planet owns a device capable of taking pictures and where in the old days only people with actual cameras taking actual photos would be trying to get the perfect shot of something that they deemed important. Oh do I yearn for those days.
I’m just completing a month long trip around SE As... (show quote)


Your real problem, ( and a clue to it's solution ), lies in the first two words of the title of your complaint.

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Mar 20, 2017 09:57:17   #
Edia Loc: Central New Jersey
 
I hate cameras. All you need is an easel, brushes, paint and a blank canvas. New fangled phone cameras suck. Progress sucks.

Every year phone cameras get significantly better and dedicated cameras get only incrementally better. If this trend continues, phone cameras will be as good or better than most dedicated cameras in a few years. We on UHH are generally older than most of the phone camera users. We started with film cameras and then moved to digital. Younger photographers have only been exposed to phone cameras and post all their photos On Line. There are a lot more of them than there are of Us. Don't condemn the younger photographers, just deal with it.

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Mar 20, 2017 09:57:56   #
Lucasdv123
 
I was invited to a xmas party so I could take pics of everyone there.my friend asked me if I could take a few pictures of her daughter and 3 of her friends who were starting to take selfies (and by the way most selfies are taken with the selfies side of the phone which has a lot less megapixals which when enlarged would give you a very grainy pic).I stood there for almost 10 minutes before I told them that if they wanted a real picture to just let me know when they were ready.they decided to drop the phone and pose.I took three excellent shot in less than 10 seconds. I told my friend that I would only take pictures if I could take them first and let everyone else take their selfies after I was finished. She agreeded.

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Mar 20, 2017 10:02:17   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
The solution is easy. Don't be a copycat, don't shoot from the same spot everyone else is and don't be a snapshot shooter and get your a$$ up early morning for a better light show like real photographers do.

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Mar 20, 2017 10:07:45   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
Edia wrote:
I hate cameras. All you need is an easel, brushes, paint and a blank canvas. New fangled phone cameras suck. Progress sucks.

Every year phone cameras get significantly better and dedicated cameras get only incrementally better. If this trend continues, phone cameras will be as good or better than most dedicated cameras in a few years. We on UHH are generally older than most of the phone camera users. We started with film cameras and then moved to digital. Younger photographers have only been exposed to phone cameras and post all their photos On Line. There are a lot more of them than there are of Us. Don't condemn the younger photographers, just deal with it.
I hate cameras. All you need is an easel, brushes,... (show quote)


I doubt that phone cameras will ever equal or exceed DSLRs/Mirrorless cameras with changeable lenses. Lenses are the single most important element. They might beat a P&S at some point but limitations on changing focal length for example are defined by the thinness of the device. Technology can improve, but not defy the laws of physics. Don't get me wrong I do use my phone's camera, but it's not replacing my DSLR untill I can mount all of my Pentax glass!😜

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Mar 20, 2017 10:10:05   #
520 Loc: Tucson
 
I hope you feel better getting that off your chest.

I too get frustrated when I go somewhere off the beaten path and discover I'm not the only genius to come up with that idea.

Smart phone photos are now a part of life. Personally, I have never taken a selfie but have had the occasion the snap a sunset or two while without my camera.

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Mar 20, 2017 10:16:28   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
I like all the shots shown in this thread. Isn't that enough to say.

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Mar 20, 2017 10:20:01   #
Martino Loc: Northwest Florida
 
Personally, I think we should go back to cave painting. ....and only having telephones in phone boxes on street corners. Better yet, only writing letters. Actually reading is over rated. We should pass ledgends, myths and history by word of mouth, from generation to generation.

Just came back from traveling in Asia? I'd ban airplanes, and ocean liners come to think of it.

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Mar 20, 2017 10:30:07   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
My annoyance gets pretty high with them also. Usually it's because they put their sticks right in front of me about the time I get focused. Or they're only taking pictures of themselves, not the scene. So when they get home, all they have are pictures of themselves - in front of the Grand Canyon, in front of the Eiffel Tower, in front of the cathedral - and of course all you can see is them! For me the biggest annoyance is that very likely the pictures they're taking are better than the ones I get with my $10,000 camera and lens!!!!!

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Mar 20, 2017 10:32:15   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
tdekany wrote:
The solution is easy. Don't be a copycat, don't shoot from the same spot everyone else is and don't be a snapshot shooter and get your a$$ up early morning for a better light show like real photographers do.

Exactly, and that even refers to cell phone shooters who want good shots. When my son was in Pisa Italy a couple of years ago, he got up before dawn so he could see the tower at first light before the swarm of tourists. He was a tourist himself, traveling light with only his then new Samsung Galaxy S5 with a 16mp camera. There were only a dozen or so others there when he arrived, so he was able to capture a number of shots carefully composed within the limitations of the phone. Only a few of them were taken with others in the frame. Within an hour there were hundreds of people there. His extra effort allowed him the opportunity to enjoy the grandeur of the moment not only photographing but just viewing the tower from different aspects in peace and solitude without feeling like he was part of a herd of cattle.

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Mar 20, 2017 10:49:41   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Exactly, and that even refers to cell phone shooters who want good shots. When my son was in Pisa Italy a couple of years ago, he got up before dawn so he could see the tower at first light before the swarm of tourists. He was a tourist himself, traveling light with only his then new Samsung Galaxy S5 with a 16mp camera. There were only a dozen or so others there when he arrived, so he was able to capture a number of shots carefully composed within the limitations of the phone. Only a few of them were taken with others in the frame. Within an hour there were hundreds of people there. His extra effort allowed him the opportunity to enjoy the grandeur of the moment not only photographing but just viewing the tower from different aspects in peace and solitude without feeling like he was part of a herd of cattle.
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Mar 20, 2017 11:06:27   #
Smudgey Loc: Ohio, Calif, Now Arizona
 
Have we become camera and photography snobs ?

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Mar 20, 2017 11:06:29   #
Don's Leica Loc: Asheville, NC
 
Like you, I have a flip phone with text turned off. Spouse uses her iPhone for many things, which is especially convenient as we travel, but she does not have a selfie stick.

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