Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Would you have bought the T7i anyway?

Spirit Hawk Loc: Michigan,Sunrise side

NO G.A.S. here...NO need to jump ship !? and NO ,life jacket?? and i do use what i have and enjoy it !!
Ron

bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.

I have no use for most of the new stable of cameras. I like viewfinders on my cameras. my only concession is a Nikon cool pix that fits nicely in my cargo pants pocket.

kbatschke Loc: Chicagoland-west

I had the same thought when I looked at the specs on the 77D. Given the price, the 80D is not that much more and provides much more camera I think. Seemed like a strange marketing move.

RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas

I think Canon is appealing to the entry level users that's all it is! The marketing team at Canon are trying a new approach lets see what happens i for one am not going to second guess them?

Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, Colorado

Exactly! My Canon 5D MKII & 7D MKII do everything I like to do quite well. I did add a new G3X to my arsenal for times I didn't want to take a DSLR.

catchlight.. Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway

I think we are fed improvements systematically over time and they guess what we want to eat. Perfection is the carrot on the end of the string that is always just out of or reach. Never will you get what is possible now or the final solution...we are consumers of things that will always be portioned by the providers.

Definitely a move to gain more sales from the everyday sheep moving about the planet...Mush in the feeding dish with all three. Yum

wj cody Loc: springfield illinois

and that's the problem with digital devices. once you get to full frame, there is nowhere to go unless you want to invest in an incredibly expensive 645 digital system. with film, the transition to larger format was easy and inexpensive. not so with digital. down marketing lesser models with a flurry of lenses for those systems is also a dead end game, as the market is already overloaded with these type devices from other manufacturers. the "upgrade" game has finally hit the consumer wall, with the greater majority staying with the systems and digital bodies they already have, as they do fine for their needs.

when film was prevalent, there was an entirely different societal take on cameras. most people used instamatics and other various point and shoot cameras and were happy with them. mostly it was professionals using 35mm slrs, tlrs and rangefinders. for those of us who wanted "more" the fixed lens rangefinder camera was the next logical choice. once mastered, we then went to interchangeable lens cameras, mostly slr models in 35mm. from there, fewer of us continued on to larger film formats. yashica, mamiya and minolta made that easy, with very resonably priced 6x6 cameras, along with the kowa and bronica brands for slr medium format cameras. the mamiya line of tlr even offered interchangeable lenses.

and so, on to other cameras, particularly rangefinders using the 120mm roll film format to provide negatives up to 6x9 centimeters; with results rivaling the 4x5 format in some cases.

what i'm trying to say here, is there was not the late desire to "look like a pro" or "upgrade" every 3 months. simply because camera companies did not introduce models in less than 10 year increments. and those new models were significant, not merely offering some minor "shake reduction" feature.

and photographers still turned out great images, and birders had no trouble with getting great shots with their pentax, canon, minolta, nikon or whatever slrs with 35mm film.

there was no "consumer" market such as today. and so, production and introduction of new models were decades in coming, matched to the market size and built to last 60+ years. and during all this time, the users, pros, commercial, wedding photographers had time to master their instruments and benefit their customers with prints. and it was the users who drove the industry. and that is the greatest difference in today's world where the industry drives the consumer ever on to the next "big" thing.

naturally, some large electronics companies will go belly up in the coming years and digital consumers will simply move on the the next obsession.

MtnMan Loc: ID

Nikon seems to also be following the upgrade route of model number only while reducing capabilities.

The D5500 took out the GPS of the D5300. The D3400 took out the sensor cleaner. The D500 has no flash. Etc.

RonBoyd

Just my two cents: I have a EOS M3 and a 7D Mark II as my main cameras. (The EOS M3 was an insurance replacement for a stolen EOS M.)

I, initially, had a problem with the lack of an OVF... for all of the above stated reasons. However, the more I used the camera, the more screen control vs button/dial control became such that when I use the 7D, I miss it. Yes, there is the bright lighting issue but depending on use that is not as big a problem as imagined.

At this moment, I would not give up either camera. I am looking forward to upgrading to the M6 for several reasons but OVF is not one of them. It should be pointed out that the optional M6 EVF is compatible with other cameras so maybe it will end up in my kit... someday.

Again, my 2¢

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

leftj Loc: Texas

That's not how you spell "Chicken"

royden Loc: Decatur, GA

Oe good thing with these "upgrades" it that the "down grades" will be cheaper with me sitting way down the line with a 40D. Can't wait for the 90D to come out next week so I can get a 70 or 80D.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

I think this is something to address with Canon. You'll get far better replies from their marketing and engineering depts. than you will on this forum.
--Bob

pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

A camera without a VF is practically useless outdoors. You can't see anything on a rear display unless it's almost dark outside. A friend gave me a Nikon P/S with no VF and I used it (tried to) twice and retired it pretty much. I prefer an optical VF but electronic is better then nothing. As far as new models I think every manufacturer is guilty of having to have something new on the shelves even though it's not really an improvement over the existing line. I buy used a few generations behind and save a lot of money.