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Feb 3, 2017 09:14:21   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
The liberals are always complaining that the right limits free speech and that they are fascists. Why then are all those liberal protesters pr With facist tacteventing conservative speakers , who were invited to speak at universities, from speaking. Not only that, the destroy private property and assualt police. This behavior is the definition of fascism. That's why I am confused. The protest fascism with fascism. I don't understand. I just realized that sevaral sentences make no sense, my computer is screwed up, the screen is cracked, so sometimes words get interrupted. I am looking for a replacement.

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Feb 3, 2017 09:35:50   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
"Free Speech" means I (well, actually, the government) can't stop you from speaking. It does NOT require anyone give you a soapbox to speak on. The protester were just exercising their right to free speech.

Except for the violence. No one on the left condones that. Now, I'm assuming your message was inspired by the Milo Yiannopoulos speech. The organizers of that protest were very quick to condemn those people who destroyed the property. They also point out that those people were not of the planning of the protest, and just show up, got violent and then disappeared. SInce we've already seen Craig list ads hiring people specifically to get violent at otherwise peaceful demonstrations, it wouldn't be surprising it Yiannopoulos hired those people just to discredit his protestors.

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Feb 3, 2017 09:40:31   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
boberic wrote:
The liberals are always complaining that the right limits free speech and that they are fascists. Why then are all those liberal protesters pr With facist tacteventing conservative speakers , who were invited to speak at universities, from speaking. Not only that, the destroy private property and assualt police. This behavior is the definition of fascism. That's why I am confused. The protest fascism with fascism. I don't understand. I just realized that sevaral sentences make no sense, my computer is screwed up, the screen is cracked, so sometimes words get interrupted. I am looking for a replacement.
The liberals are always complaining that the right... (show quote)




Remember third grade....he who smelt it, delt it?

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Feb 3, 2017 09:41:44   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
let me explain in a non-partisan way...

Berkeley students held a non-violent protest against Milo, a breitbart contributer accused of incendiary speech. They were paying for him to speak as well as for security, so it is well within their rights to protest him coming to campus. 150 outside agitators, organized and wearing masks created, or at least initiated the violence. It was a false-flag operation... each side blames the other... no one was arrested, so we may never know.

Now let me explain the 1st amendment... it protects the right of free expression from government interference, it doesn't protect free speech from public and private institutions,crowds of students, companies or even administrators of online forums... it just says that the government will not f@ck with your right.

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Feb 3, 2017 09:41:55   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
.....yet the only ones who have actually been CAUGHT paying people to go to events and protest and incite violence was the Democrat party during the last election.

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Feb 3, 2017 09:48:27   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
Cykdelic wrote:
.....yet the only ones who have actually been CAUGHT paying people to go to events and protest and incite violence was the Democrat party during the last election.
so this is either retribution from the right or a pattern of behavior of the left.

you are naive if you don't think both sides use the very same tactics to shape public opinion.

also, my guess is it's the right behind it... it supports their snowflake-narrative

"Operatives working for the Democratic National Committees sent agitators to Donald Trump rallies in an attempt to cause violence — an effort that was supported by the Hillary Clinton campaign."

See, the left infiltrates the right to make them look bad... why would the left also infiltrate the left to make them look bad, it just doesn't make sense, follow the money.

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Feb 3, 2017 10:10:23   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
green wrote:
so this is either retribution from the right or a pattern of behavior of the left.

you are naive if you don't think both sides use the very same tactics to shape public opinion.

also, my guess is it's the right behind it... it supports their snowflake-narrative

"Operatives working for the Democratic National Committees sent agitators to Donald Trump rallies in an attempt to cause violence — an effort that was supported by the Hillary Clinton campaign."

See, the left infiltrates the right to make them look bad... why would the left also infiltrate the left to make them look bad, it just doesn't make sense, follow the money.
so this is either retribution from the right or a ... (show quote)



Wrong again, greenie!

My comment was a response to James Curran who was not-so-sublimely saying this Milo guy paid the evil doers to perp their evil!

If you somehow agree, it makes you a dimmer bulb than I thought. One can analyze any event by reviewing past events, and the progressive left has been caught time and time again being directly involved in alleged "peaceful protests" like this, oft via Saint Soros moolah.

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Feb 3, 2017 10:19:35   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Wrong again, greenie!

My comment was a response to James Curran who was not-so-sublimely saying this Milo guy paid the evil doers to perp their evil!

If you somehow agree, it makes you a dimmer bulb than I thought. One can analyze any event by reviewing past events, and the progressive left has been caught time and time again being directly involved in alleged "peaceful protests" like this, oft via Saint Soros moolah.
sorry no psychic powers before 8am in my gulag.... but we agree no?

green wrote:
so this is either retribution from the right or a pattern of behavior of the left..

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Feb 3, 2017 10:20:46   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
green wrote:
so this is either retribution from the right or a pattern of behavior of the left.

you are naive if you don't think both sides use the very same tactics to shape public opinion.

also, my guess is it's the right behind it... it supports their snowflake-narrative

"Operatives working for the Democratic National Committees sent agitators to Donald Trump rallies in an attempt to cause violence — an effort that was supported by the Hillary Clinton campaign."

See, the left infiltrates the right to make them look bad... why would the left also infiltrate the left to make them look bad, it just doesn't make sense, follow the money.
so this is either retribution from the right or a ... (show quote)


Mr. Green, a man of many faces but always on the same line. I may not always recognize you but by the substance I know it's you!

I know you'll have a good day!

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Feb 3, 2017 10:22:56   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
I agree in the pre-8 am thang, but having grown up a union-bred, Cook County Chicago Machine Democrat, I can only speak for Chiraq in saying such actions are as close to a sure-democrat thing as exists on earth.

So, I will agree that my view that the current actions are, indeed, progressive bullshit rests in my direct experience growing up here (and yes, I was directly involved in enough of it!).

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Feb 3, 2017 10:23:24   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
Cykdelic wrote:
.....yet the only ones who have actually been CAUGHT paying people to go to events and protest and incite violence was the Democrat party during the last election.


I assume you are talking about this case: http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/hidden-camera-video-shows-democrats-sent-agitators-to-trump-rallies/

There are two problems with this:
- The people in the video never talk about being violent themselves -- just trying to get the Trump supporters to be violent.
- the video comes from "Project Veritas" whose EVERY previous video has been shown to be deceptively edited to distort the truth.

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Feb 3, 2017 10:24:13   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
JamesCurran wrote:
I assume you are talking about this case: http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/17/hidden-camera-video-shows-democrats-sent-agitators-to-trump-rallies/

There are two problems with this:
- The people in the video never talk about being violent themselves -- just trying to get the Trump supporters to be violent.
- the video comes from "Project Veritas" whose EVERY previous video has been shown to be deceptively edited to distort the truth.


I get it.......I shouldn't believe my lying eyes and ears! Got it.

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Feb 3, 2017 10:26:27   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
RRS wrote:
Mr. Green, a man of many faces but always on the same line. I may not always recognize you but by the substance I know it's you!

I know you'll have a good day!
you will have a great one, one of the best days, it will be a really good day. go out and enjoy it!

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Feb 3, 2017 10:32:43   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
Cykdelic wrote:
and the progressive left has been caught time and time again being directly involved in alleged "peaceful protests" like this, oft via Saint Soros moolah.


Except they haven't. They have found some Craigslist ads, but they only time they ever found someone claiming to actually be paid for protesting was shown to be a fake news article (the website's disclaim even said "If you believe this, you're a fool"). And you'd think if someone were spending millions of dollars for protests (Because any protestor seeing the ad would tell all their friend about the "free money" they could get for doing what they planned on doing anyway), you'd be able to find some evidence of a person actually being paid --- but, so far, nothing.

But if you want to discredit your opponents, placing a free ad in craigslist and showing it to a right-wing news site works great.

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Feb 3, 2017 10:52:34   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
JamesCurran wrote:
Except they haven't. They have found some Craigslist ads, but they only time they ever found someone claiming to actually be paid for protesting was shown to be a fake news article (the website's disclaim even said "If you believe this, you're a fool"). And you'd think if someone were spending millions of dollars for protests (Because any protestor seeing the ad would tell all their friend about the "free money" they could get for doing what they planned on doing anyway), you'd be able to find some evidence of a person actually being paid --- but, so far, nothing.

But if you want to discredit your opponents, placing a free ad in craigslist and showing it to a right-wing news site works great.
Except they haven't. They have found some Craigsl... (show quote)
damn it cykdelic, I thought you fact-checked... that PROOF was just a bunch of hyperbole... I trusted you!

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