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Jan 12, 2017 03:38:49   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
This is an extended answer to a thread over printing and cropping.

First I was surprised that no one mentioned that SOOC will determines the quality of your print as well as its accuracy. If you frame your subject close to filling the frame you are opening yourself to a world of trouble, if not the impossibility to create the intended printed output.

Then you have the Post processing that will allow to modify the initial capture in order to have something half decent to work with, an image. This includes global and local post processing as needed. When I was reading that folks did only 'global' PP before creating the ratio and dismissed the 'detail work' as worthless before resizing needless to say that I was surprised. Still, to each their own, so I am just surprised by these comments.

One made a comment that is often ignored but really important. Once resized an image needs to be sharpened - again -. This cannot be more emphasized. Reducing an image size will reduce the sharpness. Compare the last two images to see the difference.

Original SOOC
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Initial post processed image
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7x5 ratio and crop, not resized. Red frame is only an indication for frame borders.
7x5 ratio and crop, not resized.  Red frame is onl...
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UHH resized from the above image... Notice that since UHH did not have to resize the quality is ever so slightly better than usual.
UHH resized from the above image...  Notice that s...

Image resized to 7x5 and 300dpi. The image DL is soft.
Image resized to 7x5 and 300dpi.  The image DL is ...
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Same image, sharpened. It could be sent to a printer.
Same image, sharpened.  It could be sent to a prin...
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Jan 12, 2017 05:59:36   #
fosgood11 Loc: oil city, La.
 
Rongnongno wrote:
This is an extended answer to a thread over printing and cropping.

First I was surprised that no one mentioned that SOOC will determines the quality of your print as well as its accuracy. If you frame your subject close to filling the frame you are opening yourself to a world of trouble, if not the impossibility to create the intended printed output.

Then you have the Post processing that will allow to modify the initial capture in order to have something half decent to work with, an image. This includes global and local post processing as needed. When I was reading that folks did only 'global' PP before creating the ratio and dismissed the 'detail work' as worthless before resizing needless to say that I was surprised. Still, to each their own, so I am just surprised by these comments.

One made a comment that is often ignored but really important. Once resized an image needs to be sharpened - again -. This cannot be more emphasized. Reducing an image size will reduce the sharpness. Compare the last two images to see the difference.
This is an extended answer to a thread over printi... (show quote)



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Jan 12, 2017 07:20:31   #
Harry_in_England
 
I had never noticed before that resizing an image can soften it but I'll watch out for that from now on - especially as I need to resize any image I want to enter into my local club competitions. Thanks for the tip.

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Jan 12, 2017 14:55:48   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Bad SOOC. This image is not exploitable but on the WEB...


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Jan 13, 2017 07:56:31   #
tom cody
 
Thanks for the info. I am a newbee so forgive me but what is SOOC?

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Jan 13, 2017 09:09:32   #
Past Pro Loc: Spring Hill, Florida
 
tom cody wrote:
Thanks for the info. I am a newbee so forgive me but what is SOOC?


"Straight out of camera," no post processing.

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Jan 13, 2017 10:02:26   #
yssirk123 Loc: New Jersey
 
Qimage will provide size-specific sharpening of the final print image based on analysis of the file.

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Jan 13, 2017 10:30:56   #
tom cody
 
Thanks

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Jan 13, 2017 13:29:58   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Rongnongno wrote:
......Once resized an image needs to be sharpened - again - Reducing an image size will reduce the sharpness.....


A valid point that's very easily overlooked.

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Jan 15, 2017 14:04:22   #
bdk Loc: Sanibel Fl.
 
what Ive found is sometimes I sharpen, then do edits, then resize then sharpen again and I get noise that wasn't there when I started.
I use topaz to sharpen, inside PS CS6, have u had that problem? It may be topaz, i'm not sure.

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Jan 15, 2017 14:07:34   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
bdk wrote:
what Ive found is sometimes I sharpen, then do edits, then resize then sharpen again and I get noise that wasn't there when I started.
I use topaz to sharpen, inside PS CS6, have u had that problem? It may be topaz, i'm not sure.

I do not use plug ins so I cannot answer your question. Sorry.

Anyone else?

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Jan 15, 2017 14:51:23   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Rongnongno wrote:
I do not use plug ins so I cannot answer your question. Sorry.

Anyone else?


Perhaps bdk isn't seeing the obvious, which is that if you zoom in by cropping, noise becomes more obvious, and on top of that, sharpening makes noise worse too.

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