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The more I look at it the madder I get...
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Jan 11, 2017 07:17:58   #
dragonfist
 
Don't look back. It results in nothing more than a stiff neck.
 
Jan 11, 2017 08:35:46   #
JCam (a regular here)
 
pithydoug wrote:
Going back to jpeg would be like going back to no indoor plumbing.


Not really, the input is the same; the only difference is the amount of time you dedicate to getting the usable product. Is it waste or a photographic "marvel"? I find that it takes me about twice as much time processing a given shot from RAW vs. "fixing" any faults in JPEG shots, and in the end, I don't usually see much difference in the results. I'll admit my old less critical eyes and attitude may account for some of my JPEG preference. I'm not a Professional, and am retired, but why should I spend even more time on the computer for comparable outputs?

A survey to know what percentage of UHH shoots in RAW only, RAW+ JPEG, or JPEG only and how much time is invested in their final GOOD photos. The ones discarded, even after processing, don't count; junk in-junk out. Unfortunately, a survey wouldn't work as typically only the really dedicated usually reply, and I suspect the greatest proportion of UHH'ers consider photography to be a hobby.
Jan 11, 2017 08:42:17   #
NoSocks
 
ptcanon3ti wrote:
Don't live in the past...you'll waste the time you have left.


Very well put. I should frame that. I'm constantly beating myself up over lost time at things other than photography and you're right about what a waste of time and energy it is.
Jan 11, 2017 09:17:35   #
Uuglypher (a regular here)
 
dragonfist wrote:
Don't look back. It results in nothing more than a stiff neck.


In the words of Satchel Page:

"Don't look back; someone may be gaining on y' !"

Dave
Jan 11, 2017 09:29:29   #
starlifter
 
I have tried shooting I RAW of and on over the years. I keep going back to jpg. If you can't get a shot right with the equipment available now too bad. I have worked a few jpg images here and there. Although I'm retired I still don't have time to sift thru all huge files to fix all these so called mistakes. No thank you. My d7200 takes great shots with having to manipulate them afterwards. The person takes the photo not the computer
Jan 11, 2017 09:39:28   #
SusanFromVermont (a regular here)
 
Kuzano wrote:
Interesting. I first started shooting RAW in 2005. I discovered the wasted time in PP RAW, and stopped in 2010.

I turned to SOOC and learned all the settings in my image processor, and the advantages of knowing without hesitation the advantages of custom profiles.

Have not shot much RAW, or done that much post processing since 2010. I PP in the image processor, and using custom profiles, BEFORE the image goes to the memory card as a JPEG, or a TIFF. Both of those formats can be post processed if needed.

SOOC.. you heard it here more often than elsewhere, and with better time savings and IQ results.

I begrudge the four years wasted on RAW. Wasted time when you are selling your work. I sold more work with film.
Interesting. I first started shooting RAW in 2005.... (show quote)

Everyone has their own concept of what constitutes "wasted time". And if your system works for you, that is great. But it does not sound like you are interested in putting something of yourself into the final product other than taking the picture! Sounds like your method is kind of like buying "assemble it yourself" furniture or using a cake mix to make a cake. You take the picture, mix it with a preset, and present the final assembled product. This is letting the camera do the thinking for you...

Perhaps I misunderstood what you are describing, but this is what it looks like to me. I actually find PP a RAW image satisfying even though it IS time-consuming!
 
Jan 11, 2017 09:59:40   #
starlifter
 
What ever floats your boat. It takes all. It takes all kinds to make the world go round
Jan 11, 2017 10:00:20   #
cthahn (a regular here)
 
I shoot everything in RAW. Then into LR. Then I can do anything that I want to do with it, now or years from now. I have been shooting RAW for about 15 years and there is no reason to stop. Quit listening to everything you hear on UH and take some courses on photography and learn something if you want to be kind of a photographer,
Jan 11, 2017 10:08:07   #
DirtFarmer (a regular here)
 
Rongnongno wrote:
My first raw shooting started in 2008. It became systematic in 2011.

WHAT WAS I THINKING???



I lost three years!!!
My first raw shooting started in 2008. It became ... (show quote)


My first DSLR was in 2005. I started shooting raw+jpg in mid 2007, so I lost 2 years. I started shooting raw only in late 2007.

Shooting raw only forces me to put my images through Lightroom (since that's my conversion program of choice). I look on this as an advantage, not a time waster. At my age I need a way to find an image among the tens of thousands in my catalog. Lightroom affords me the tools to do that when my memory isn't up to the task.

And you young whippersnappers should remember that, while your memory may be at its peak now, you are heading for my age whether you like it or not.
Jan 11, 2017 10:15:41   #
bull drink water (a regular here)
 
sometimes I shoot raw and convert to jpeg or tiff. other times I just shoot jpeg, it's not that big of a deal for me.
Jan 11, 2017 10:34:12   #
TJ28012
 
BJW wrote:
I switched to RAW after a year of JPEG. Real easy to fix all the underexposed shots. And other imperfections. I'm sticking with RAW and big memory cards.


What are underexposed shots? And the word "all" to me indicates many. After 50+ years shooting kodachrome, we strived for correct exposure as there was no fix. I would work on my shooting skills.
 
Jan 11, 2017 11:25:09   #
imagemeister (a regular here)
 
Rongnongno wrote:
My first raw shooting started in 2008. It became systematic in 2011.

WHAT WAS I THINKING???



I lost three years!!!
My first raw shooting started in 2008. It became ... (show quote)


Sorry for your religious obsession !
Jan 11, 2017 12:27:47   #
sandiegoslim
 
Some times, you mite be better off just keeping your opinions to yourself
Jan 11, 2017 13:27:32   #
alandg46
 
I have always shot raw except with my first digital camera, an Oly CZ2000. Prior I shot Kodachrome and Ektachrome. Yes, you had to get it right, but I did custom printing so a fair amount of post processing was involved. It's far easier now.
Jan 11, 2017 13:34:38   #
jpintn (a regular here)
 
pithydoug wrote:
Going back to jpeg would be like going back to no indoor plumbing.


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