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Dec 16, 2016 17:11:31   #
dls1 Loc: Massachusetts
 
Hello photographers,

I am thinking of upgrading my 7D to a 7D Mark II or the Canon 6D. Do any of you know all three cameras? Do you see a noticeable difference between the 7D and 7D mark II? Is the 6D much better than the 7D II for portraits and landscapes? (I can't afford the 5d camera series).

I photograph birds, landscapes, citiscapes, flowers, people, wildlife, portraits, do photojournalism--in other words, I am not limited to one area. I am currently deciding between the sigma 18-35 Art lens or one of the canon wide lenses (probably the Canon EF 16-35mm f/4L IS) and since the sigma won't work on a full frame, I am figuring out ahead of time the lens that will match my future upgraded camera. The other lens in my future is the canon 100-400II.

Thanks for your input!

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Dec 16, 2016 17:20:35   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
dls1 wrote:
Hello photographers,

I am thinking of upgrading my 7D to a 7D Mark II or the Canon 6D. Do any of you know all three cameras? Do you see a noticeable difference between the 7D and 7D mark II? Is the 6D much better than the 7D II for portraits and landscapes? (I can't afford the 5d camera series).

I photograph birds, landscapes, citiscapes, flowers, people, wildlife, portraits, do photojournalism--in other words, I am not limited to one area. I am currently deciding between the sigma 18-35 Art lens or one of the canon wide lenses (probably the Canon EF 16-35mm f/4L IS) and since the sigma won't work on a full frame, I am figuring out ahead of time the lens that will match my future upgraded camera. The other lens in my future is the canon 100-400II. Thanks for your input!
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Dls, if the birds and wildlife you shoot are ever flying or running, I would not consider the 6D. The 6D is NOT an action canera nor does it pretend to be one.
The 6D would be better for landscapes though.
I would prefer the 7ll for portraits because of the numerous focus points over a larger area. I would put more importance on that aspect for portraits than the bigger sensor and the more mp of the 6D. Good luck
SS

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Dec 16, 2016 17:30:32   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
I have the 7D II and am well pleased with it. I use it for landscape and wildlife photography. Its 10fps burst rate (even with RAW files) is very well-suited to BIF photos. I've also gotten good landscapes (which a FF would typically be better for). And, since I have a combination of EF-S and EF lenses, I decided to stick with a crop-frame camera when I upgraded. Most of the bird photos on my web site are with the 7dII, if you care to look.

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Dec 16, 2016 17:36:34   #
dls1 Loc: Massachusetts
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Dls, if the birds and wildlife you shoot are ever flying or running, I would not consider the 6D. The 6D is NOT an action canera nor does it pretend to be one.
The 6D would be better for landscapes though.
I would prefer the 7ll for portraits because if the numerous focus points over a larger area. I would put more importance on that aspect for portraits than the bigger sensor and more mp of the 6D. Good luck
SS


Thank you SharpShooter--I am leaning toward the 7II.

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Dec 16, 2016 17:40:50   #
dls1 Loc: Massachusetts
 
DWU2 wrote:
I have the 7D II and am well pleased with it. I use it for landscape and wildlife photography. Its 10fps burst rate (even with RAW files) is very well-suited to BIF photos. I've also gotten good landscapes (which a FF would typically be better for). And, since I have a combination of EF-S and EF lenses, I decided to stick with a crop-frame camera when I upgraded. Most of the bird photos on my web site are with the 7dII, if you care to look.


Thank you for the information DWU2. I did look at your website and the photos are stunning. What camera did you upgrade from? Was it the 7d? Is the 7dII much better?

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Dec 16, 2016 17:50:07   #
PaulR01 Loc: West Texas
 
You will see quite a noticeable improvement in photos with he 6D. I have had both. As long as the subject isn't moving in low light the 6D will out perform the 7Dii. The 7Dii's focusing system is far soupier but the sensor handling low light is still lacking. The 7Dii is a great improvement from the old 7D. But for what you are wanting to shoot the 6D will do great.

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Dec 16, 2016 17:54:34   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
dls1 wrote:
Hello photographers,

I am thinking of upgrading my 7D to a 7D Mark II or the Canon 6D. Do any of you know all three cameras? Do you see a noticeable difference between the 7D and 7D mark II? Is the 6D much better than the 7D II for portraits and landscapes? (I can't afford the 5d camera series).

I photograph birds, landscapes, citiscapes, flowers, people, wildlife, portraits, do photojournalism--in other words, I am not limited to one area. I am currently deciding between the sigma 18-35 Art lens or one of the canon wide lenses (probably the Canon EF 16-35mm f/4L IS) and since the sigma won't work on a full frame, I am figuring out ahead of time the lens that will match my future upgraded camera. The other lens in my future is the canon 100-400II.

Thanks for your input!
Hello photographers, br br I am thinking of upgra... (show quote)


I own and use the 6D and 7DII. Both are great, but different and better for different uses with overlap.
Think of it as a nice, roomy comfortable family sedan/minivan (6D) and a high performance sport/muscle car (7DII).
You can haul the family and the groceries in the sport model, but the sedan does it easier and better. You get out and fly cross country in the sedan but the sport model does it better, and can take curves.

6D- great image quality and great low light performance, full frame and lends itself to large prints a bit better. Has a basic AF system that is best on still or very slow moving subjects. You can do action and BIF with it, I have, you just need to learn and use the techniques from pre AF days.

7DII - great image quality but needs more light to get the same IQ, outstanding AF for action, moving subjects etc, weather proofed for the kind of stuff sports photogs and wildlife shooters often work in. High frame rate and large buffer for doing burst shooting to get "the moment" when action is at just the right point. The APS-C sensor only sees the center of view so that each lenses length acts as if it is longer. (a 100 mm lens on the 7DII sees the same angle of view as a 160 mm on the 6D)

May I suggest you look at the 80D. It has many of the advantages of the 7DII but is not as expensive and even has a newer, higher MP sensor that performs better in low light, but not as good as the 6D. And has a very good AF system with weather proofing nearly as good as the 7DII.

Rumor has it a 6DII is coming next year with a 24 MP sensor and improved AF. Rumor has it at $1999 body only when it comes out.

Don't forget used from the trusted sources or refurbished which you can buy direct from the Canon store.

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Dec 16, 2016 18:02:18   #
dls1 Loc: Massachusetts
 
robertjerl wrote:
I own and use the 6D and 7DII. Both are great, but different and better for different uses with overlap.
Think of it as a nice, roomy comfortable family sedan/minivan (6D) and a high performance sport/muscle car (7DII).
You can haul the family and the groceries in the sport model, but the sedan does it easier and better. You get out and fly cross country in the sedan but the sport model does it better, and can take curves.

6D- great image quality and great low light performance, full frame and lends itself to large prints a bit better. Has a basic AF system that is best on still or very slow moving subjects. You can do action and BIF with it, I have, you just need to learn and use the techniques from pre AF days.

7DII - great image quality but needs more light to get the same IQ, outstanding AF for action, moving subjects etc, weather proofed for the kind of stuff sports photogs and wildlife shooters often work in. High frame rate and large buffer for doing burst shooting to get "the moment" when action is at just the right point. The APS-C sensor only sees the center of view so that each lenses length acts as if it is longer. (a 100 mm lens on the 7DII sees the same angle of view as a 160 mm on the 6D)

May I suggest you look at the 80D. It has many of the advantages of the 7DII but is not as expensive and even has a newer, higher MP sensor that performs better in low light, but not as good as the 6D. And has a very good AF system with weather proofing nearly as good as the 7DII.

Rumor has it a 6DII is coming next year with a 24 MP sensor and improved AF. Rumor has it at $1999 body only when it comes out.

Don't forget used from the trusted sources or refurbished which you can buy direct from the Canon store.
I own and use the 6D and 7DII. Both are great, bu... (show quote)


Thank you robertjeri --did you ever use the 7d? Is the 7dII that much better?


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Dec 16, 2016 18:02:51   #
dls1 Loc: Massachusetts
 
PaulR01 wrote:
You will see quite a noticeable improvement in photos with he 6D. I have had both. As long as the subject isn't moving in low light the 6D will out perform the 7Dii. The 7Dii's focusing system is far soupier but the sensor handling low light is still lacking. The 7Dii is a great improvement from the old 7D. But for what you are wanting to shoot the 6D will do great.


Thank you PaulR01

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Dec 16, 2016 18:06:14   #
DavidM Loc: New Orleans, LA
 
dls1 wrote:
Hello photographers,

I am thinking of upgrading my 7D to a 7D Mark II or the Canon 6D. Do any of you know all three cameras? Do you see a noticeable difference between the 7D and 7D mark II? Is the 6D much better than the 7D II for portraits and landscapes? (I can't afford the 5d camera series).

I photograph birds, landscapes, citiscapes, flowers, people, wildlife, portraits, do photojournalism--in other words, I am not limited to one area. I am currently deciding between the sigma 18-35 Art lens or one of the canon wide lenses (probably the Canon EF 16-35mm f/4L IS) and since the sigma won't work on a full frame, I am figuring out ahead of time the lens that will match my future upgraded camera. The other lens in my future is the canon 100-400II.

Thanks for your input!
Hello photographers, br br I am thinking of upgra... (show quote)


I own the 6D and the 85 1.8 lens. My favorite combination for portraits. You won't beat a full frame sensor for dynamic range and low light capability. Attached a few photos I recently took of my grand-daughter.




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Dec 16, 2016 18:08:25   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
dls1 wrote:
Thank you SharpShooter--I am leaning toward the 7II.


Both cameras have their place. For that reason I have two cameras, a 7Dll and a 5Ds.
BUT, the bottom line is, if you are only gonna have one camera, the 7ll can do ANYTHING the 6D will do and more but the 6D CAN NOT do everything the 7ll can do.
SS

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Dec 16, 2016 19:35:47   #
Gifted One Loc: S. E. Idaho
 
I own 6D and 60D and have had a 7D c. I stop doing swim comp so the value of the 7Dii was lost on me. I have shot with the 6D on fast pace though.

There seems to be at least two schools of thought on Focus and Focus points. The gold standard is eyes and the closes needs to be in focus. I can best do that with a one point Focus point.

I just procured a couple of supper zooms so I may go for an additional burst rate.

I like DavidM love to couple with my very sharp 85mm

J. R.

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Dec 16, 2016 20:59:31   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
dls1 wrote:
Thank you robertjeri --did you ever use the 7d? Is the 7dII that much better?



No, but a friend has the 7D and when I let him handle my 7DII for a while his reaction was "WOW".
To continue the car analogy, the 7D is a sports car for the highway, the 7DII is one souped up for more horse power and tuned for the race circuit.

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Dec 16, 2016 23:39:07   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
dls1 wrote:
Thank you for the information DWU2. I did look at your website and the photos are stunning. What camera did you upgrade from? Was it the 7d? Is the 7dII much better?


My prior camera was a Canon T4i, and, as I noted, that made it so all my lenses fit the new camera.

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Dec 17, 2016 00:42:24   #
dls1 Loc: Massachusetts
 
PaulR01 wrote:
You will see quite a noticeable improvement in photos with he 6D. I have had both. As long as the subject isn't moving in low light the 6D will out perform the 7Dii. The 7Dii's focusing system is far soupier but the sensor handling low light is still lacking. The 7Dii is a great improvement from the old 7D. But for what you are wanting to shoot the 6D will do great.


Thank you PaulR01.


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