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Dec 15, 2016 08:30:06   #
jayd Loc: Central Florida, East coast
 
Mount Your camera on a painter's pole and use a remote trigger to get the shot from a little bit of an elevation looking over the wall

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Dec 15, 2016 08:48:55   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
jayd wrote:
Mount Your camera on a painter's pole and use a remote trigger to get the shot from a little bit of an elevation looking over the wall


It seems like getting up higher and a downward angle is the thing to do. I have a monopod that might work for that. Since my camera has wi fi tether it off my phone. Thanks :)

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Dec 15, 2016 08:59:42   #
1Feathercrest Loc: NEPA
 
Would you want to try drywall stilts to get you up higher and use a slightly wider lens to get the appearance of more depth?

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Dec 15, 2016 10:50:24   #
Caldian Loc: Crystal Lake, Michigan & traveling
 
As an earlier reply stated " use a drone". You would only need twenty to thirty feet of elevation to capture both the house, garden and wall. Just be careful of all those wires! I'm sure the neighbors would not appreciate you taking out their power and telephones

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Dec 15, 2016 14:27:41   #
Spectre Loc: Bothell, Washington
 
Corner prospective and you might try a monopod to gain height and add depth.

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Dec 15, 2016 21:36:50   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
what others have said… longer lenses compress depth… wide angle lens make you feel like you can stick your head in the frame and look around.

Compressed depth looks sort of like this effect… can't find the perfect one i am thinking of.. but perhaps you get the idea of what you are wanting to avoid. Obviously graphic...
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/421227371378912404/

Here it is explained- probably more if you look around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_(photography) When this page loads- look for this same link and click on it there -its the second one down….

* Perspective_distortion_(photography)

for some reason it won't work directly when I paste it here, i think its the "( )" around "photography" that is screwing it up.

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Dec 17, 2016 08:52:44   #
Tjohn Loc: Inverness, FL formerly Arivaca, AZ
 
It looks like there are some great possibilities to get close-up details of the materials and technique of construction. Shoot early morning or last hour before sunset. 50mm to wide angle. Macro for close-up details.

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Dec 17, 2016 09:31:29   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
RichieC wrote:
what others have said… longer lenses compress depth… wide angle lens make you feel like you can stick your head in the frame and look around.

Compressed depth looks sort of like this effect… can't find the perfect one i am thinking of.. but perhaps you get the idea of what you are wanting to avoid. Obviously graphic...
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/421227371378912404/

Here it is explained- probably more if you look around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_(photography) When this page loads- look for this same link and click on it there -its the second one down….

* Perspective_distortion_(photography)

for some reason it won't work directly when I paste it here, i think its the "( )" around "photography" that is screwing it up.
what others have said… longer lenses compress dept... (show quote)


Thanks, I went back out yesterday afternoon and kept the lens at 16mm on the 6D. In most cases I was able to get right up to the walls keeping the full height of the wall in the frame and still show the distance between the wall and the house and keep everything in focus. I was out too early on a clear day so there was way too much hard shadow to make the photos acceptable but I think I have the technique figured out now and just have to do the work during the golden hours.

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Dec 17, 2016 09:32:55   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
RichieC wrote:
Here it is explained- probably more if you look around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_(photography) When this page loads- look for this same link and click on it there -its the second one down….

* Perspective_distortion_(photography)

for some reason it won't work directly when I paste it here, i think its the "( )" around "photography" that is screwing it up.

Directly from your cited reference is this statement that says it is not the lens focal length, but the distance that creates perspective distortion:

"Note that linear perspective changes are caused by distance,
not by the lens per se – two shots of the same scene from the
same distance will exhibit identical perspective geometry,
regardless of lens used."

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Dec 18, 2016 09:53:18   #
imp by mike Loc: Minnesota/Wisconsin/North Carolina
 
DOF may be assisted by angle & shadow. Don't shoot flat/straight-on if you can avoid it.
If you truly want DOF, find a 3D camera. I have a VIVITAR 3D CAM (35mm film) with viewer, and you can't beat 3D for realism!

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Dec 20, 2016 09:25:37   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
Apaflo wrote:
Directly from your cited reference is this statement that says it is not the lens focal length, but the distance that creates perspective distortion:

"Note that linear perspective changes are caused by distance,
not by the lens per se – two shots of the same scene from the
same distance will exhibit identical perspective geometry,
regardless of lens used."


Yep... however that is referring to particular elements of much greater distances - I can spot and prefer the effect of a wide angle in landscapes over telephotos, they provide a sense of space that is much closer to what your eyes actually see on location that telephotos simply don't- why I specifically purchased a Milvus 21. . The only way he would avoid the flattened perspective and solve his problem, is getting close and using a wide angle- or perhaps shoot a pano- which may be unwieldy.

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Dec 20, 2016 09:27:35   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
waegwan wrote:
Thanks, I went back out yesterday afternoon and kept the lens at 16mm on the 6D. In most cases I was able to get right up to the walls keeping the full height of the wall in the frame and still show the distance between the wall and the house and keep everything in focus. I was out too early on a clear day so there was way too much hard shadow to make the photos acceptable but I think I have the technique figured out now and just have to do the work during the golden hours.


Go here and plan your shot... this is an exceptional site. I even bought the version for my phone.

http://app.photoephemeris.com

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Dec 21, 2016 07:37:16   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
Thank you everyone for your help, I have learned a lot. I will get back to this project but it may be a month or more, my bill paying job has gone bonkers do to personnel changes; it will be a month or more before things settle down.

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