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Oct 23, 2016 20:51:13   #
Lens Cap Loc: The Cold North Coast
 
So as I scour the continent for a Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM or a Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Lens, I have noticed that pictures that are posted of these lenses the body can be white, or a tan/flesh color. Is there a significance in this color? if so please define the difference. Thanks in advance!

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Oct 23, 2016 20:54:36   #
Japakomom Loc: Originally from the Last Frontier
 
My guess would be just different dye lots.

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Oct 23, 2016 20:57:04   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
There may be a SLIGHT difference over the years in the absolute true color of Canon lenses - but there will be a much GREATER difference due to the way they are photographed ie color balance - and that - I believe, is what you are mostly seeing ....

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Oct 23, 2016 21:47:01   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
Lens Cap wrote:
So as I scour the continent for a Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM or a Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Lens, I have noticed that pictures that are posted of these lenses the body can be white, or a tan/flesh color. Is there a significance in this color? if so please define the difference. Thanks in advance!


There is definitely a difference. The only time it will be of importance is if Canon needs to know which color you need for touch-up paint. It isn't just the 70-200's, other "big whites" suffer the same disorder.

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Oct 23, 2016 21:48:14   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
imagemeister wrote:
There may be a SLIGHT difference over the years in the absolute true color of Canon lenses - but there will be a much GREATER difference due to the way they are photographed ie color balance - and that - I believe, is what you are mostly seeing ....


I'd say that's right.
The older ones are a little more cream and the newer one slightly more whitish.
But as long as they look BAD A$$, it's all that matters, who cares if you know how to use one, as long as it's COOL!!!!
SS

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Oct 23, 2016 22:30:07   #
tsilva Loc: Arizona
 
there is a different color between the mkI and mkII, as well as the difference in quality

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Oct 24, 2016 01:11:57   #
rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania
 
I don't know Canon's reason for varying the colors but I have several white L lenses and no two are the same shade of white. All my black L lenses are the same shade of black.

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Oct 24, 2016 08:19:58   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
SharpShooter wrote:
But as long as they look BAD A$$, it's all that matters...


Definitely! Canon has always placed appearance over performance. (kidding, of course)

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Oct 24, 2016 08:37:37   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
imagemeister wrote:
There may be a SLIGHT difference over the years in the absolute true color of Canon lenses - but there will be a much GREATER difference due to the way they are photographed ie color balance - and that - I believe, is what you are mostly seeing ....


I agree color balance of the photo being taken not the actual color. It has been pretty much the same as memory serves since they were FD lenses.
Here is an old FD lens.



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Oct 24, 2016 09:00:19   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Canon changed their "white color" for the applicable L lenses back around 2010. Models released after August 2010 have a more white / greyish color where older lenses have a more white / cream color. The color change applies to the release date, not the manufacture date.

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Oct 24, 2016 09:19:33   #
BuckeyeBilly Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
 
Lens Cap wrote:
So as I scour the continent for a Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM or a Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Lens, I have noticed that pictures that are posted of these lenses the body can be white, or a tan/flesh color. Is there a significance in this color? if so please define the difference. Thanks in advance!


From Canon Customer Service, "A white surface reflects sunlight, helping to keep the lens cooler. This is especially important in settings such as nature or sports, which these lenses are normally used in." I pursued my line of questioning and asked if there is a significance between gray lenses and white lenses. She referred me to Canon's Technical Support and its number is 1-800-828-4040. They are there starting at 10:00 am Eastern time. Hope this helps.

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Oct 24, 2016 09:46:20   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
tsilva wrote:
there is a different color between the mkI and mkII, as well as the difference in quality


mkI and mkII are designators for cameras, not lens. Lenses are designated by the singular Roman numeral.

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Oct 24, 2016 10:01:25   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
davidrb wrote:
mkI and mkII are designators for cameras, not lens. Lenses are designated by the singular Roman numeral.


My MK I and MK II in my hand here look the same color.

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Oct 24, 2016 11:46:39   #
imagesintime Loc: small town, mid-America
 
Lens Cap wrote:
So as I scour the continent for a Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM or a Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM Lens, I have noticed that pictures that are posted of these lenses the body can be white, or a tan/flesh color. Is there a significance in this color? if so please define the difference. Thanks in advance!


The original reason for white lenses was the use of flourite in the lens (http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/education/infobank/lenses/fluorite_aspherical_and_ud_lenses.do) which is easily effected by heat. I would guess the slight changes of color have to do with the results of continuing research during the last 30 years.

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Oct 24, 2016 12:32:53   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
imagesintime wrote:
The original reason for white lenses was the use of flourite in the lens (http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/education/infobank/lenses/fluorite_aspherical_and_ud_lenses.do) which is easily effected by heat. I would guess the slight changes of color have to do with the results of continuing research during the last 30 years.


This is correct... fluorite elements are somewhat fragile and very often lenses that use it are deliberately painted a light color to reduce the chance of heat build up, which might lead to expansion of metals in the lens which in turn may damage the fluorite element.

Fluorite is used in lenses for two primary reasons: It is very effective at reducing chromatic aberrations and it's lighter weight than optical glass.

However, naturally occurring fluorite that's pure enough for use in lenses is rather rare and costly, especially in sizes large enough to make into lens elements.

Canon developed a means of "growing" their own fluorite for use in their lenses.... And they make extensive use of it, especially in telephotos. It's pretty rare to find fluorite in other manufacturers' lenses. You can buy a Canon lens with a fluorite element for roughly $750. The cheapest Nikkor with a fluorite elements costs over $10,000. AFAIK, Sigma, Tamron and Tokina don't make any lenses with fluorite. Not sure about Sony, Pentax or Olympus now. I know the latter two have used it in a few lenses in the past.

Some Canon lenses that use fluorite:

- three of the current Canon 70-200 models
- 100-400mm (both versions)
- 200-400mm
- all the Canon super tele primes (200/2, 300/2.8, 400/2.8, etc.... incl. Mk I and Mk II, as well as most earlier non-I)

The only "white" Canon lenses I can think of that don't use fluorite:

- 300/4
- 70-200/2.8 non-IS and the discontinued f2.8 IS Mk I
- 70-300L
- 400/4 DO (either version)
- 400/5.6L

I hardly think the minor differences in color has anything to do with lens design or serves any physical purpose. The rather slight color variation is probably due to a change in paint suppliers, types of paint or method of application... or was just done for marketing purposes.

Incidentally, when choosing cameras and lenses to use on the moon and for other space missions, reportedly NASA specifically avoided any lenses incorporating fluorite out of concern that the high G forces and heavy vibrations of launches and landings would damage the fluorite elements. They used Hasselblad cameras and lenses on the moon missions. They've used Kodak and Nikon gear for other, more recent missions and on the International Space Station.

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