Do you like the constitution?
Oct 10, 2016 09:41:29 #
In the debate last night hillary said that she would appoint liberal supreme court judges. So you must ask yourself the following questions. Do I like the constitution as written? Sould judges uphold the constitution or view it as a flexible document? Should judges legislate from the bench? Would a more liberal court be a good thing for the country? There is no single thing that a president does that is more important than appointing supreme court Judges.So it really it comes down to this. Regardless of ANYTHING else.what kind of country do you want? A strictly constitutional republic, or a country that has no basis in the constitution as written? the choice is that simple.
Oct 10, 2016 09:45:53 #
Yes, as written. Judging from the crop of politicians in office today, none have the wisdom and foresight our founding fathers possessed when they wrote The Constitution.
--Bob
--Bob
boberic wrote:
In the debate last night hillary said that she wou... (show quote)
Oct 10, 2016 10:05:14 #
As written. The Constitution is not a grocery list of things wanted by the political leader "du jour". It should only be changed by the process the Founders put in place, which requires determined thought and action of a MAJORITY of the people in this country,not a small group of people who are beholden to the power that gave them their plush LIFETIME job.
Oct 10, 2016 10:07:44 #
ayersrl wrote:
As written. The Constitution is not a grocery list of things wanted by the political leader "du jour". It should only be changed by the process the Founders put in place, which requires determined thought and action of a MAJORITY of the people in this country,not a small group of people who are beholden to the power that gave them their plush LIFETIME job.
Oct 10, 2016 10:16:03 #
IMHO, the Constitution, as well as the Bible, should be used as a framework.
The founding father's were not all knowing gods.
The Bible was written by men.
Both documents, lay the ground work for what is to be expected.
However, neither document, is 100% applicable (as written) 100% of the time.
The founding father's could NOT have for seen 100% of the changes, in society and the world condition, over time.
The Bible has numerous contradictions.
Turn the other cheek.
An eye for an eye.
We are, or should be, intelligent people who can use these documents to guide us in making appropriate decision in today's world.
BTW, Yes, I do like the Constitution.
The founding father's were not all knowing gods.
The Bible was written by men.
Both documents, lay the ground work for what is to be expected.
However, neither document, is 100% applicable (as written) 100% of the time.
The founding father's could NOT have for seen 100% of the changes, in society and the world condition, over time.
The Bible has numerous contradictions.
Turn the other cheek.
An eye for an eye.
We are, or should be, intelligent people who can use these documents to guide us in making appropriate decision in today's world.
BTW, Yes, I do like the Constitution.
Oct 10, 2016 10:32:57 #
chrisscholbe wrote:
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The Bible has numerous contradictions.....
The Bible has numerous contradictions.....
66 Books written over 400 years by 40 men with the guidence of God.
and there are NO contradictions.
Oct 10, 2016 10:33:40 #
chrisscholbe wrote:
IMHO, the Constitution, as well as the Bible, shou... (show quote)
I disagree. The founding fathers had brilliant forethought. That's why the pleced in the constitution the process for adapting for future changes in society. Ammendment accomplishes exactly that concept.
Oct 10, 2016 10:42:23 #
Robert Graybeal wrote:
66 Books written over 400 years by 40 men with the guidence of God.
and there are NO contradictions.
and there are NO contradictions.
Not even the 2 that I mentioned?
Oct 10, 2016 10:44:14 #
boberic wrote:
I disagree. The founding fathers had brilliant forethought. That's why the pleced in the constitution the process for adapting for future changes in society. Ammendment accomplishes exactly that concept.
It sounds like we agree that the Constitution was not intended to be "caste in stone", but was meant to be a "living" document where we could address changes that the fore father's couldn't/didn't foresee.
Oct 10, 2016 11:40:40 #
chrisscholbe wrote:
It sounds like we agree that the Constitution was not intended to be "caste in stone", but was meant to be a "living" document where we could address changes that the fore father's couldn't/didn't foresee.
Yes, but only by an act of congress and the individual state approval. Not by a president or a compliant congress.Interesting enough the Constitutuion does not give the Court permission to judge ANYTHING constitutional or not.
Oct 10, 2016 11:54:39 #
You're NOT referring to SCOTUS, right?
Where does SCOTUS get it's authority if not from the Constitution?
Where does SCOTUS get it's authority if not from the Constitution?
Oct 10, 2016 12:26:05 #
Robert Graybeal wrote:
66 Books written over 400 years by 40 men with the guidence of God.
and there are NO contradictions.
and there are NO contradictions.
The book known as the Bible was edited to its present form. The church cherry picked what it wanted from available materials.
Oct 10, 2016 13:39:17 #
boberic wrote:
Sould judges uphold the constitution or view it as a flexible document?
You know, if you go to the national archives and ask the guards real nice like, they will turn over the original constitution. On the back, in James Madison's handwriting is the words,
"Feel free to change at any time, assholes."
SCOTUS is the final arbitrator in the delicate system of checks and balances that the Founders wrote to prevent one branch of government ruling above the others, which was exactly what the Colonies were experiencing with King George. There are many current laws that exist that specifically were not mentioned in the Constitution or its amendments. Should slavery be legal? Should women be denied the right to vote? Should discrimination based on race, religion and sex be legal?
Oct 10, 2016 14:07:13 #
chrisscholbe wrote:
You're NOT referring to SCOTUS, right?
Where does SCOTUS get it's authority if not from the Constitution?
Where does SCOTUS get it's authority if not from the Constitution?
OK Please show mt where in the constitution where it spells out the courts pervue to judge whether or not ANY law is or is not constitutional--- you can't because there is no such power granted to the supreme court. The court simply seized that power unto itselfin a court decision (Barbury V Madison) in the early 1800's. According to the constitution if congress passes an illegal law. the ONLY way to overturn it is by repeal. It it's most basic- the court's overturning any law is unconstitutional. Read the constitution.
Oct 10, 2016 14:10:46 #
Noah's ark is tad sketchy on the science -
Dinosaurs? A young earth?
The rapture?
There are plenty of issues.
Dinosaurs? A young earth?
The rapture?
Robert Graybeal wrote:
66 Books written over 400 years by 40 men with the guidence of God.
and there are NO contradictions.
and there are NO contradictions.
There are plenty of issues.
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