boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
Here are the stakes. If hillary wins, there will NEVER be a republican president ever again. Hillary will legalize every illegal and give them the right to vote. This will ensure her re-election and change the national demographics. The figure of 11 million of aliens is wrong. It's more like 20 or 30 million. So Texas, Florida, Arizona and Nevada will be lost forever. The supreme court will liberal for generations. The USA will be radically different than it is today. If you think that the USA is a terrible place, Vote for hillary. Thats whats at stake.
Hillary Clinton pegs half of Donald Trump's supporters as a 'basket of deplorables'
dirtpusher wrote:
Hillary Clinton pegs half of Donald Trump's supporters as a 'basket of deplorables'
I think the professional term for that is
projection.
Big Bill wrote:
I think the professional term for that is projection.
Even after they been verified. Nah no projection involved. Look right here on uhh.
dirtpusher wrote:
Even after they been verified. Nah no projection involved. Look right here on uhh.
I would like to see your reference material for that "verification."
Big Bill wrote:
I would like to see your reference material for that "verification."
Lol dense fella I did uhh. You pretty well display it
boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
dirtpusher wrote:
Hillary Clinton pegs half of Donald Trump's supporters as a 'basket of deplorables'
By hillary's metrics 25% of the voting public are deplorable. She shows contempt for a large percentage of americans. Is this the kind of president that you want? If Trump ever said anything like this he would be excoriated and the press would have headlines such as TRUMP HATES 1/4 OF AMERICA. Hillary's comment is a discrace.
boberic wrote:
Here are the stakes. If hillary wins, there will NEVER be a republican president ever again. Hillary will legalize every illegal and give them the right to vote. This will ensure her re-election and change the national demographics. The figure of 11 million of aliens is wrong. It's more like 20 or 30 million. So Texas, Florida, Arizona and Nevada will be lost forever. The supreme court will liberal for generations. The USA will be radically different than it is today. If you think that the USA is a terrible place, Vote for hillary. Thats whats at stake.
Here are the stakes. If hillary wins, there will N... (
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The best responsible estimate we have is 11.3 million. Obama has deported 2.5 million, but I don't know how that affects the larger number.
All that needs to change is Texas with its 38 electoral votes; Democrats have the advantage is states that have voted Democratic for 25 years, giving them 242 assumed electoral votes. Thirty-eight more would give them 280, and 270 wins the election.
The Supreme Court will be liberal, probably for generations, as you say.
But wait! There's more.
At the Presidential level, the black vote simply doesn't exist for Republicans.
At the Presidential level, the Hispanic vote is severely bruised for Republicans.
At the Presidential level, the single women's vote (58 million of them!) is foreign to the Republicans.
These three blocs constitute just about 50% of those voting.
At the Presidential level, the Republicans simply can't win.
Big Bill wrote:
I think the professional term for that is projection.
Not if analysis backs it up....
Big Bill wrote:
I would like to see your reference material for that "verification."
http://thinkprogress.org/is-hillary-clinton-right-about-trump-supporters-this-is-what-the-polling-data-says-2b37625a1df3#.jpx3yp2ai☺ 20% of Trump supporters disagreed with Lincoln’s signing of the Emancipation Proclamation, which freed southern slaves.
☺ 16% percent of Trump supporters admitted they believed that “whites are a superior race,”
☺ 59% of Trump voters believe Barack Obama was born in Kenya
☺ 66% (!) of Trump supporters believe Barack Obama is a Muslim
☺ 80% of Trump supporters are mouth breathers who live in a trailer or their parent's basement. (Ok, I made that one up).
boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
Twardlow wrote:
The best responsible estimate we have is 11.3 million. Obama has deported 2.5 million, but I don't know how that affects the larger number.
All that needs to change is Texas with its 38 electoral votes; Democrats have the advantage is states that have voted Democratic for 25 years, giving them 242 assumed electoral votes. Thirty-eight more would give them 280, and 270 wins the election.
The Supreme Court will be liberal, probably for generations, as you say.
But wait! There's more.
At the Presidential level, the black vote simply doesn't exist for Republicans.
At the Presidential level, the Hispanic vote is severely bruised for Republicans.
At the Presidential level, the single women's vote (58 million of them!) is foreign to the Republicans.
These three blocs constitute just about 50% of those voting.
At the Presidential level, the Republicans simply can't win.
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If Romney had gotten the same number of votes the McCain got , he would have won the presidency. And Trump is at least competitive. You ca't deny that at this time a republican has shot at winning. If hillary wins that chane is over. A one party sytem is not good or america and if you think that it is- think- dictatorship
boberic wrote:
If Romney had gotten the same number of votes the McCain got , he would have won the presidency.
The racial demographics of voters have changed. Mittens lost because all he could control, in the end, was the White Male vote, which is thankfully a shrinking segment of the population. What is a growing segment of the population is African-Americans - ZERO% Trump support, Hispanics 20% Trump Suppot support, and among Women only 30%.
boberic wrote:
By hillary's metrics 25% of the voting public are deplorable. She shows contempt for a large percentage of americans. Is this the kind of president that you want? If Trump ever said anything like this he would be excoriated and the press would have headlines such as TRUMP HATES 1/4 OF AMERICA. Hillary's comment is a discrace.
Lol ROFL
You are blind calling someone deplorable compared to the orange boi.
boberic wrote:
If Romney had gotten the same number of votes the McCain got , he would have won the presidency. And Trump is at least competitive. You ca't deny that at this time a republican has shot at winning. If hillary wins that chane is over. A one party sytem is not good or america and if you think that it is- think- dictatorship
I haven't checked the numbers on Romney vs. McCain; doesn't really matter.
We're talking about Trump, and he is nowhere near Romney's numbers...Nowhere. Near. Them.
I
can deny that at this time a republican has a shot at winning. Ain't gonna happen, and it can't.
You will know the Republican Party has changed when they solicit Black votes (they don't now) when they solicit Hispanic votes (they don't now) and when they solicit women's votes--remember "the war on women?"
Those three blocs make up just about 50% of the voters.
Until then, tough times for repubs as the Presidential level.
When Republicans and Democrats both solicit the votes of all Americans, the radical division of the nation will be reduced and some sort of normal will exist.
Until then, Republicans are in for a hard time, and even after for a bit, as some disgruntled repubs will sit out voting until 'normal' becomes the norm.
(I never said a one party America is a good thing; you Just made that up.)
boberic wrote:
If Romney had gotten the same number of votes the McCain got , he would have won the presidency. And Trump is at least competitive. You ca't deny that at this time a republican has shot at winning. If hillary wins that chane is over. A one party sytem is not good or america and if you think that it is- think- dictatorship
Regarding Romney, let me point out that his floor was 191 electoral votes--number went up a little occasionally, but always returned to 191; on election night, he won North Carolina and its 15 electoral votes, giving him 206.
For the Billion dollars he spent on his campaign, his only win was North Carolina; the 191 votes were gifted to him as a republican and, had he not spent a penny on his campaign, he would still have received those votes.
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