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Jul 6, 2016 21:26:13   #
timspix Loc: Lexington, SC
 
[quote=Szalajj]I'm going to ask a question about the white flower, and yellow stamens.

Were you only trying to get those stamen tips in focus? .... YES !!!

Szalajj, thanks for the advice ... you are one of the few that "gets" what I'm asking about ... I actually WANT the shallow DOF ... my frustration is that in the first image there is NO part of the image that is in focus. I also have had similar soft focus problems with some flash pictures that I took recently where strobes were used along with f8 / 135mm / iso 100 and 1/200 second exposure ... so I'm trying to feret out if its me, the camera, or the settings ... Maybe underexposure is contributing to the softness ???


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Jul 6, 2016 21:38:06   #
timspix Loc: Lexington, SC
 
canon Lee wrote:
Hi camera shake is a real problem with a shallow depth of field. If you do a lot of macro shooting I would suggest putting the camera on a tripod and using a WIFI device like CamRanger.com, which your camera would be controlled hands free remotely. It also operates on a iPad which will give you large detail.


Thanks Lee, makes sense ... I have a tripod, but may have to divert some GAS money towards a software and tablet ...

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Jul 6, 2016 21:44:31   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Your D750 has wifi, there are apps for tablet and smart phone that should allow control. The one that works with my Canon 6D was free from Canon. Maybe Nikon has a free app also.

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Jul 6, 2016 22:23:44   #
Szalajj Loc: Salem, NH
 
timspix wrote:
Szalajj wrote:
I'm going to ask a question about the white flower, and yellow stamens.

Were you only trying to get those stamen tips in focus?
.... YES !!!

Szalajj, thanks for the advice ... you are one of the few that "gets" what I'm asking about ... I actually WANT the shallow DOF ... my frustration is that in the first image there is NO part of the image that is in focus. I also have had similar soft focus problems with some flash pictures that I took recently where strobes were used along with f8 / 135mm / iso 100 and 1/200 second exposure ... so I'm trying to feret out if its me, the camera, or the settings ... Maybe underexposure is contributing to the softness ???
quote=Szalajj I'm going to ask a question about t... (show quote)

I had a "Soft Focus" issue for several months, and discovered a few weeks ago, that one of the settings was changed when my camera was sent in for service back in November, and I just found out. Somehow, it was set to Soft Focus Portrait, instead of Sharp Focus. Once I changed that one setting, I started to get some better shots. It took looking through a book that I downloaded from Barnes & Noble, specific to my camera to find the setting and correct it. It wasn't covered in the users manual that came with the camera.

If your subject is in sharp focus, the under exposure shouldn't contribute to the softness issue. In the first yellow flower shot, there was actually some camera motion which blurred the shot.

In the second White flower shot, it was the angle of the shot that resulted in only one or two of the yellow stamen tips being in sharp focus as a result of the shallow depth of field. For that second shot, you would need to balance the angle of the shot, with the depth of field, to try to get just what you want in focus, and the background blurred.

But if you shot with a tripod, and tried to stack multiple shots where you only focused on one of the yellow stamen tips, and rotated around the circle of them, while keeping the balance of the shot blurred, then stacked them, or you might be able to accomplish the effect you were going for. Of course, you have to be in manual focus to do this. I've never done any stacking, but if you go over to the True Macro section and search, if you can't find it searching in that section then ask for some help, they could explain how it's done.

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Aug 1, 2016 11:25:47   #
Meives Loc: FORT LAUDERDALE
 
Timspix. I think you needed more light. You ISO could be set up to 800 or 1600 and F stop from f 9 to f 11 or f 160. Shutter could be a bit faster than 1/80. The flower could have moved besides your hand.



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Aug 2, 2016 09:15:43   #
SonyA580 Loc: FL in the winter & MN in the summer
 
You might want to try flash. Yes, flash outdoors. This would allow you to use higher shutter speed to minimize "shake", minimum aperture (f/22) for greater DOF.

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Oct 4, 2016 19:22:42   #
cheineck Loc: Hobe Sound, FL
 
timspix wrote:
This shot was taken using a monopod and a 20mm kenko extension tube. I do get some sharp images with the kenko tubes ... but I also get a lot of soft ones. AND I also get plenty of soft ones w/o the tubes. So it begs the question ... with a shutter speed of 1/80 second, on a monopod, on my back deck, ISO 400 ... is this softness due to camera motion ... or could it be something else? Is perhaps the focus point even nearer to the camera such that none of the flower is in the focal plane?


PSCC has a shake reduction future that works quite well, as I shake too! See attachments.

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Oct 5, 2016 12:22:16   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
timspix wrote:
This shot was taken using a monopod and a 20mm kenko extension tube. I do get some sharp images with the kenko tubes ... but I also get a lot of soft ones. AND I also get plenty of soft ones w/o the tubes. So it begs the question ... with a shutter speed of 1/80 second, on a monopod, on my back deck, ISO 400 ... is this softness due to camera motion ... or could it be something else? Is perhaps the focus point even nearer to the camera such that none of the flower is in the focal plane?


1/80th?

I couldn't hold 1/80th if I was duct taped to a wall.

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Oct 26, 2016 22:41:49   #
timspix Loc: Lexington, SC
 
Whoah ... cheineck ... So you are telling me that the second door handle photo is the same one ... just run through a sharpening / focus / shake correcting algorithm? And this is PhotoShop Creative Cloud (PSCC?) if so I think that you will need to get a cut of the subscription I will start if this is the case ...
cheineck wrote:
PSCC has a shake reduction future that works quite well, as I shake too! See attachments.

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Oct 27, 2016 07:54:14   #
cheineck Loc: Hobe Sound, FL
 
timspix wrote:
Whoah ... cheineck ... So you are telling me that the second door handle photo is the same one ... just run through a sharpening / focus / shake correcting algorithm? And this is PhotoShop Creative Cloud (PSCC?) if so I think that you will need to get a cut of the subscription I will start if this is the case ...


Yep! I was amazed. Won't do well with too much shake though.

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Oct 27, 2016 08:00:09   #
WayneW Loc: South Carolina
 
rpavich wrote:
1/80th?

I couldn't hold 1/80th if I was duct taped to a wall.


RPavich, I know the feeling! I used to handhold at 1/30! I can still hold my breath for 3 minutes, but I'm trusting my Bogen more and more!

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Nov 21, 2016 23:23:40   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
You need to bump up the shutter speed - at least 1/125th. I would also suggest f8 or higher for depth of field. Compensate low light by bumping up the ISO.

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Nov 22, 2016 18:29:46   #
timspix Loc: Lexington, SC
 
f9 1/80 ... 50 mm lens so I thought I was ok with shuttered speed. But will try taking it up to 1/125 or faster.
DanielB wrote:
You need to bump up the shutter speed - at least 1/125th. I would also suggest f8 or higher for depth of field. Compensate low light by bumping up the ISO.

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Nov 22, 2016 23:36:26   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
Didn't expect f9 on that shot. I though you would get a little bit better DOF but it is Macro shooting so I guess DOF will not be that much deeper. I just saw the second shot and that is much better...same settings?

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Nov 26, 2016 10:38:24   #
bdk Loc: Sanibel Fl.
 
when I use my extension tubes, I can't hand hold I MUST use a tripod, then its a lot easier to put it all together and get the correct focus etc

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