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Feb 8, 2016 22:58:57   #
xs650greg2
 
Hi, I have a white dog that is giving me fits trying to get the correct exposure/white balance on the RAW (Fujifilm-RAF) files. If I get the exposure for the dog then the background is really dark. If I get the background lighter then I have "burned out" areas of the dog. On a sunny day it's really hard to deal with. I have -- hs50exr camera,ISO100,F8,37mm,Spot metering, Cloudy, 3:30pm. I processed the raw file in Fuji's software (everything set to "normal") and conconverted to Jpg. I can go to PP and adjust it and get it better but I wish I could get the "negative" raw file better. I've seen some really good shots of white foreground/dark background on the site. So what am I missing? Should I just dye my dog a darker color? Is it just a limitation of the camera? Have I got "the stupid" button pressed on my camera? I'm retired now and have plenty of time and really enjoy photography now and it's fun trying to get "the harder" shots.

Any Ideas,,, thanks all,, the sites great!
Raw(RAF) File
Raw(RAF) File...
 
Feb 8, 2016 23:14:51   #
warrior
 
xs650greg2 wrote:
Hi, I have a white dog that is giving me fits trying to get the correct exposure/white balance on the RAW (Fujifilm-RAF) files. If I get the exposure for the dog then the background is really dark. If I get the background lighter then I have "burned out" areas of the dog. On a sunny day it's really hard to deal with. I have -- hs50exr camera,ISO100,F8,37mm,Spot metering, Cloudy, 3:30pm. I processed the raw file in Fuji's software (everything set to "normal") and conconverted to Jpg. I can go to PP and adjust it and get it better but I wish I could get the "negative" raw file better. I've seen some really good shots of white foreground/dark background on the site. So what am I missing? Should I just dye my dog a darker color? Is it just a limitation of the camera? Have I got "the stupid" button pressed on my camera? I'm retired now and have plenty of time and really enjoy photography now and it's fun trying to get "the harder" shots.

Any Ideas,,, thanks all,, the sites great!
Hi, I have a white dog that is giving me fits try... (show quote)


Have you tried Photoshop Elements 14?
Feb 8, 2016 23:18:19   #
chase4
 
xs650greg2 wrote:
Hi, I have a white dog that is giving me fits trying to get the correct exposure/white balance on the RAW (Fujifilm-RAF) files. If I get the exposure for the dog then the background is really dark. If I get the background lighter then I have "burned out" areas of the dog. On a sunny day it's really hard to deal with. I have -- hs50exr camera,ISO100,F8,37mm,Spot metering, Cloudy, 3:30pm. I processed the raw file in Fuji's software (everything set to "normal") and conconverted to Jpg. I can go to PP and adjust it and get it better but I wish I could get the "negative" raw file better. I've seen some really good shots of white foreground/dark background on the site. So what am I missing? Should I just dye my dog a darker color? Is it just a limitation of the camera? Have I got "the stupid" button pressed on my camera? I'm retired now and have plenty of time and really enjoy photography now and it's fun trying to get "the harder" shots.

Any Ideas,,, thanks all,, the sites great!
Hi, I have a white dog that is giving me fits try... (show quote)


You have a good lookin' white dog. Kinda remindes me of our white Akita, Lucy. Just try messin' with your white balance, exposure compensation and the backgrounds and you'll find out what works best. I don't take great, perfect images just snapshots like this one. chase
Lucy @ Poolside
Lucy @ Poolside...
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Feb 8, 2016 23:19:05   #
Rongnongno (a regular here)
 
ACR Two clicks. Auto exposure then auto WB.

Since you have a raw file you will be able to get a much better result than that.

Your image is underexposed more than anything else. With raw it should be over exposed (ETTR).. Err over exposed as per the JPG histogram.


Feb 8, 2016 23:25:32   #
chase4
 
Rongnongno wrote:
ACR Two clicks. Auto exposure then auto WB.

Since you have a raw file you will be able to get a much better result than that.

Your image is underexposed more than anything else. With raw it should be over exposed (ETTR).. Err over exposed as per the JPG histogram.


Nice job, Rongo. chase
Feb 8, 2016 23:33:30   #
xs650greg2
 
chase4 wrote:
You have a good lookin' white dog. Kinda remindes me of our white Akita, Lucy. Just try messin' with your white balance, exposure compensation and the backgrounds and you'll find out what works best. I don't take great, perfect images just snapshots like this one. chase


Hi, and I bet he likes to "chase" things. yea they do kinda look alike. Dogs are great friends and buddys'. Yea I'm gonna start bracketing some and see what's the best mixture I guess. A lot of it's probably that it's just "digital", the nature of the beast type thing. Film gives you more range to work with but it's so much trouble. I think your right, I need to set down and take a series of shots with different setting and pic the one thats best. Thanks for the shout, Greg.
 
Feb 8, 2016 23:50:13   #
dirtpusher (a regular here)
 
exposure compensation :thumbup:
Feb 8, 2016 23:57:03   #
Rongnongno (a regular here)
 
chase4 wrote:
Nice job, Rongo. chase

Not me, ACR.
Feb 8, 2016 23:59:51   #
xs650greg2
 
Rongnongno wrote:
ACR Two clicks. Auto exposure then auto WB.

Since you have a raw file you will be able to get a much better result than that.

Your image is underexposed more than anything else. With raw it should be over exposed (ETTR).. Err over exposed as per the JPG histogram.


Hi, OK, What is ACR? then autoexposure and autoWB in PS or the raw software? Should I maybe use the raw software in PS? I have the camera basicaly "zeroed out" as far as settings. and I do use AutoWB on the camera. And I didn't really understand "with raw it should be over exposed(ETTR)..Err over exposed as per the JPG histogram". I understand the histogram some, probably not enough. Are you saying to error on the side of a more exposed raw file? Making a Stronger "lite" side on the historgram? Should I Set the compensation on the camera itself to +1/3rd to lighten it instead of the raw or PS software? Sorry for probably being so dense. I know some things but I need to learn a lot more. Thanks for the help.
Feb 9, 2016 00:22:28   #
Rongnongno (a regular here)
 
xs650greg2 wrote:
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When you open a raw file PS CC will start ACR.

At first, if you are not familiar with it, use auto exposure. Then use Auto White balance.

Note the changes in the various sliders. tweak them however you want in order to learn what they do. If you mess up? Reset everything to default including the white balance and try again.

Then press shift and click Open.

This will open PS CC and load the file as a smart object.

In this case, because the image was a JPG I used PS CC directly and selected filter ACR where I just did auto exposure then White balance.

Auto-exposure should always be used first.

That's it, not more complex than this.
Feb 9, 2016 07:30:59   #
xs650greg2
 
Rongnongno wrote:
When you open a raw file PS CC will start ACR.

At first, if you are not familiar with it, use auto exposure. Then use Auto White balance.

Note the changes in the various sliders. tweak them however you want in order to learn what they do. If you mess up? Reset everything to default including the white balance and try again.

Then press shift and click Open.

This will open PS CC and load the file as a smart object.

In this case, because the image was a JPG I used PS CC directly and selected filter ACR where I just did auto exposure then White balance.

Auto-exposure should always be used first.

That's it, not more complex than this.
When you open a raw file PS CC will start ACR. br ... (show quote)


Thanks for the reply, I still don't know what ACR is? And to me in your pic the dogs middle back is overexposed and has no detail. I'm sure it's all very simple to you guys, but to a guy that's just learning it's kinda complex. That's why I posted here was to learn something. All I've learned here is that there are a lot of "buzz" words and abbreviations that I'm not familiar with. I do appreciate the help, it just didn't really address the "burnout problem" that I'm having. I'll go to a more "basic" photo site.
 
Feb 9, 2016 07:46:02   #
randave2001 (a regular here)
 
xs650greg2 wrote:
Thanks for the reply, I still don't know what ACR is? And to me in your pic the dogs middle back is overexposed and has no detail. I'm sure it's all very simple to you guys, but to a guy that's just learning it's kinda complex. That's why I posted here was to learn something. All I've learned here is that there are a lot of "buzz" words and abbreviations that I'm not familiar with. I do appreciate the help, it just didn't really address the "burnout problem" that I'm having. I'll go to a more "basic" photo site.
Thanks for the reply, I still don't know what ACR... (show quote)


ACR=Adobe Camera Raw, a free program from Adobe to manage/edit RAW files. It is also an integral part of Adobe Lightroom but has a slightly different look and feel in the way it was implemented. Just Google it and you will find lots of information. Also, try YouTube for some free tutorials on how to use the different adjustments in this program. Best of luck in your RAW file editing.
Feb 9, 2016 07:51:03   #
Carl D
 
xs650greg2 wrote:
Thanks for the reply, I still don't know what ACR is? And to me in your pic the dogs middle back is overexposed and has no detail. I'm sure it's all very simple to you guys, but to a guy that's just learning it's kinda complex. That's why I posted here was to learn something. All I've learned here is that there are a lot of "buzz" words and abbreviations that I'm not familiar with. I do appreciate the help, it just didn't really address the "burnout problem" that I'm having. I'll go to a more "basic" photo site.
Thanks for the reply, I still don't know what ACR... (show quote)

It stands for Adobe Camera Raw.
Feb 9, 2016 08:21:49   #
rmalarz (a regular here)
 
Rongnongno wrote:
ACR Two clicks. Auto exposure then auto WB.

Since you have a raw file you will be able to get a much better result than that.

Your image is underexposed more than anything else. With raw it should be over exposed (ETTR).. Err over exposed as per the JPG histogram.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
--Bob
Feb 9, 2016 09:24:44   #
boberic (a regular here)
 
xs650greg2 wrote:
Hi, I have a white dog that is giving me fits trying to get the correct exposure/white balance on the RAW (Fujifilm-RAF) files. If I get the exposure for the dog then the background is really dark. If I get the background lighter then I have "burned out" areas of the dog. On a sunny day it's really hard to deal with. I have -- hs50exr camera,ISO100,F8,37mm,Spot metering, Cloudy, 3:30pm. I processed the raw file in Fuji's software (everything set to "normal") and conconverted to Jpg. I can go to PP and adjust it and get it better but I wish I could get the "negative" raw file better. I've seen some really good shots of white foreground/dark background on the site. So what am I missing? Should I just dye my dog a darker color? Is it just a limitation of the camera? Have I got "the stupid" button pressed on my camera? I'm retired now and have plenty of time and really enjoy photography now and it's fun trying to get "the harder" shots.

Any Ideas,,, thanks all,, the sites great!
Hi, I have a white dog that is giving me fits try... (show quote)

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