how do you shoot a black jumper
Dec 25, 2015 11:35:20 #
this is the little bold jumper that just molted,i posted pics of his old skin.i'm nit happy with these,i started out f11 and less light then went to f16 (last 2,i think) and full flash since he wouldnt hold still for stacking
Dec 25, 2015 12:01:41 #
Tom, From the twin highlights, I would guess that these taken with the KX-800 speed light system. They seem to have a pretty high guide number, so it may be your diffusion or the distance to the jumper. Were you using a full set of tubes? 150 Sigma? If any of the above, I see three choices: lose the tubes, try a shorter macro lens, or more ambient lighting.
Good luck. Black is tough.
Good luck. Black is tough.
Dec 25, 2015 12:03:49 #
While I haven't played with HDR yet, would the HDR setting do anything to get more out of the dark areas?
Dec 25, 2015 12:30:20 #
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
i hope to see my 150 again but not sure i will.i used the 105 with 36mm of tubes.next time i'll try my other flash and see.my KX-800 is diffused by 1 sheet of paper towel 3" from flash headWere you using a full set of tubes? 150 Sigma? If any of the above, I see three choices: lose the tubes, try a shorter macro lens, or more ambient lighting.
Dec 25, 2015 12:31:29 #
Muddyvalley wrote:
might be a good idea,i'll keep that in mind next timeWhile I haven't played with HDR yet, would the HDR setting do anything to get more out of the dark areas?
Dec 25, 2015 13:16:19 #
since your jumpers are well trained and will sit on such a nice jumper throne for you... You gotta build a concave diffuser that you can set on top of them. Just saying... she's a beauty!!!!!
You should create a topic dedicated to the keeping and training of jumpers. I know this Christmas is almost over, but what photographer wouldn't want a jumper pet?
You should create a topic dedicated to the keeping and training of jumpers. I know this Christmas is almost over, but what photographer wouldn't want a jumper pet?
Dec 25, 2015 14:00:19 #
pfrancke wrote:
i have only had pet jumpers for a couple weeks so i'm just learning myself. how do you build a concave diffuser,i'll do it if i can figure out howsince your jumpers are well trained and will sit on such a nice jumper throne for you... You gotta build a concave diffuser that you can set on top of them. Just saying... she's a beauty!!!!!
You should create a topic dedicated to the keeping and training of jumpers. I know this Christmas is almost over, but what photographer wouldn't want a jumper pet?
You should create a topic dedicated to the keeping and training of jumpers. I know this Christmas is almost over, but what photographer wouldn't want a jumper pet?
Dec 25, 2015 14:45:16 #
Black is easy. White on black separates little diffusers from larger ones. Here's a straight out of camera for you using a 8x10 inch diffuser. Bigger, Softer light. Fine line between enough light for the black and to much to blow out the white. I would go big diffuser, as smaller tends to be too directional, like a flash light. My diffuser is also more Overhead and less frontal.
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Phidippus clarus, but more your jumpers colors
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Brown Jumper straight from camera
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red & Black jumper, light colored foreground SOOC
Dec 25, 2015 14:52:58 #
martinfisherphoto wrote:
I like. :thumbup:Black is easy. White on black separates little diffusers from larger ones. Here's a straight out of camera for you using a 8x10 inch diffuser. Bigger, Softer light. Fine line between enough light for the black and to much to blow out the white. I would go big diffuser, as smaller tends to be too directional, like a flash light. My diffuser is also more Overhead and less frontal.
Dec 25, 2015 15:00:24 #
martinfisherphoto wrote:
ok,i'll work on that,if its good for black its probably great for brownBlack is easy. White on black separates little diffusers from larger ones. Here's a straight out of camera for you using a 8x10 inch diffuser. Bigger, Softer light. Fine line between enough light for the black and to much to blow out the white. I would go big diffuser, as smaller tends to be too directional, like a flash light. My diffuser is also more Overhead and less frontal.
Dec 25, 2015 16:25:55 #
tinusbum wrote:
on that diffusion thread, you can see a picture of what I made. I took a thin board and cut two U-shaped pieces that would look like a train tunnel. how do you build a concave diffuser,i'll do it if i can figure out how
Mine were perhaps 1/4 inch thick and 2 inches wide. But the shape is like a U. Then I connected/framed the two pieces together buy using a bunch of small pieces of wood that served as studs. Glue them together into a frame.
Cover the inside of the tunnel with paper towels - I used hot glue. The outside gets tin-foil. I lined it with photo paper first I think, then put tin-foil on the inside for the the light to reflect off of
Dec 25, 2015 16:40:03 #
Piet has a great illustration. Mine is really pretty similar: Instead of wood to reinforce, I used several short pieces of 1/8" plastic water-line used for a refrigerator ice-maker. A piece of copper electrical wire shoved inside helps hold the concave shape. Diffusion is then glued on. Voila'
Dec 26, 2015 03:50:30 #
tinusbum wrote:
This is an early prototype for the KX-800. I have since trimmed the edge down some and most importantly, added a single layer of paper towel. Simple seems to be best (don't over think it ;) ). I can get a lot of different lighting by:i have only had pet jumpers for a couple weeks so i'm just learning myself. how do you build a concave diffuser,i'll do it if i can figure out how
1. Of course re-positioning the flash units to where ever.
2. Moving the flash units closer to or farther from the diffusion material.
3. Adjusting the left and right flash power/duration.
4. Use light weight aluminium jewelry wire to frame the differ to very easily change the shape.
5. Any combination of the above ^^^
Also, even if your MWD was 2", you can adjust the flash heads to still light the front of your subject. And with the wire, you can bend it back to shoot a subject that is 2 or 3' away. :wink:
I find this set up extremely versatile. :thumbup: And the catch light isn't too bad either.
Dec 26, 2015 09:11:25 #
Macronaut wrote:
so its attached to the lens not the flash? looks goodThis is an early prototype for the KX-800. I have since trimmed the edge down some and most importantly, added a single layer of paper towel. Simple seems to be best (don't over think it ;) ). I can get a lot of different lighting by:
Dec 26, 2015 14:41:57 #
tinusbum wrote:
Actually, I fixed it to a cheap ring flash mount, which has a nice big grove all the way around. I can make one for each lens with various filter sizes and screws off/on.so its attached to the lens not the flash? looks good
I experimented a little with diffusion on each flash head but, did really come up with anything as effective. I still have a few that are untested, though I doubt they will provide the same quality of lighting I was after.
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