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Do these look flat? Zero-ing in on KX-800 Diffusion, part 3
Aug 23, 2015 23:14:59   #
Macronaut Loc: Redondo Beach,Ca.
 
I wanted to repost some images that posted in this thread http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-332467-1.html of a few jumpers using the new diffusion. There was no PP done and even the camera settings were neutral/zero for jpegs in the original post above.

So I did a little PP to these.

Do these look flat? It's a bit difficult when these jumpers are on almost white stone. These are three individual spiders of various sizes BTW ;)

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Aug 23, 2015 23:59:11   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
What ratio of key and fill are you using? I think two things are going on: The backdrop is too close in tone and color to the jumpers and the lighting is too even. How close are the two lights? Perhaps try moving the key further off axis? Or transplanting the jumpers to a more contrasting background? I have the same issue with my wall jumpersÂ….

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Aug 24, 2015 00:22:52   #
Macronaut Loc: Redondo Beach,Ca.
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
What ratio of key and fill are you using? I think two things are going on: The backdrop is too close in tone and color to the jumpers and the lighting is too even. How close are the two lights? Perhaps try moving the key further off axis? Or transplanting the jumpers to a more contrasting background? I have the same issue with my wall jumpersÂ….
I had one set at 1/64 and one at 1/32 if I recall and set evenly apart as you can see in the jumpers eyes. I suppose I need to adjust the flash heads with key and fill more in mind. My focus so far has been more on soft and even diffused light. I need to get this unit to the field for a proper run through;) I do think the white stone is at least part of the problem :| My Gray Wall Jumpers do not cooperate very much as far as being relocated or sitting on my hand.

I likely won't make any more changes until after I take it to the field and evaluate the shots on my computer. The really nice thing about this unit is that you can "easily" position the heads virtually anywhere, in any direction and any distance you care to. I'm at a very preliminary stage of working out just exactly how to set up this flash for optimal results .

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Aug 24, 2015 05:33:08   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
Flyextreme wrote:
Do these look flat?
Yes, I would like to see more "modeling", which best occurs with a lighting ration of 2:1 or 3:1, left-over-right or right-over-left. This is basically key-&-fill lighting.

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Aug 24, 2015 07:41:42   #
Carl D Loc: Albemarle, NC.
 
I think the background is working against you, especially in photo#2 it is so close that my eye wandered all over the photo. Maybe with some side lighting to create shadows it would have more separation between subject and background. Overall I like the picks and the sharpness.

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Aug 24, 2015 11:16:13   #
Curve_in Loc: Virginia
 
I think the background is the issue. When I shoot something that is on the siding of our house, it comes out looking flat. I need to up the black levels PP to get a better image. With that light of a surface, I'd try a lower iso and a smaller aperture, so that the flash is providing more of the light rather than the sun.

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