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Jul 15, 2015 09:42:47   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Do photographers take or make photographs. Painters paint or make pictures. Not a life changing topic. Just curious

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Jul 15, 2015 09:47:54   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
So glad you visited this forum, boberic. I hope you'll have time to check out all the stimulating and interesting topics!

Regarding your not-at-all trivial question:

I consider photography to be an art; therefore, I make a photograph. Even if I weren't doing any editing, my compositions (conscious decisions of what to include or not) are what I want you to see, and how I hope you feel as a result.

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Jul 15, 2015 09:51:15   #
Frank2013 Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.
 
boberic wrote:
Do photographers take or make photographs. Painters paint or make pictures. Not a life changing topic. Just curious


I'll have to lean on the make side.

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Jul 15, 2015 09:56:10   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Frank2013 wrote:
I'll have to lean on the make side.


Can you elaborate? :)

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Jul 15, 2015 10:04:16   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
So glad you visited this forum, boberic. I hope you'll have time to check out all the stimulating and interesting topics!

Regarding your not-at-all trivial question:

I consider photography to be an art; therefore, I make a photograph. Even if I weren't doing any editing, my compositions (conscious decisions of what to include or not) are what I want you to see, and how I hope you feel as a result.

Thanks for the heads up about this forum. Lots of interesting stuff here

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Jul 15, 2015 10:06:34   #
Bill Houghton Loc: New York area
 
boberic wrote:
Do photographers take or make photographs. Painters paint or make pictures. Not a life changing topic. Just curious


I think your underlay question is more like when we take a photos is the underlay goal is to due Post Production on it. Speaking for myself, I will take two a photo with two different attitudes.

The first is to remember the event i.e. a beautiful view, a smile on a friends face. A new car, a sun setting threw the clouds there are thousands of reasons.

The second reason and to me why I Have purchased thousands of dollars of lens and cameras verses a point and shoot. Is to afford me the ability to due PP in the most personal way.

Perhaps it's a mental thing, I will often down load photos on the Hog and take them into PP. and see what I can do to improve it. It might be just to adjust it, to a complete photo make overs. LOL.. Then I delete it.

What drives me, and others to do this, I have no Idea and i don't think I want to know for I might end up the East Wing somewhere.

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Jul 15, 2015 11:22:08   #
Frank2013 Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Can you elaborate? :)


I'm in your camp on this. Once in awhile I will take a shot with no thought but rarely. I usually always consider composition, in doing so I am making a conscience effort to make something. Even the few that I may take get made into a final product in pp.

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Jul 15, 2015 11:42:55   #
Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)
 
boberic wrote:
Do photographers take or make photographs. Painters paint or make pictures. Not a life changing topic. Just curious


Hi, boberic,
And welcome to FYC!
A common and reasonable question...and one answered from a variety of perspectives.
My impression is that it approaches the putative dichotomy of "snapshot" versus "photograph" which so often bears pejorative intent aimed at the supposedly " no-thought-required" nature of the "snapshot" or "grab shot".

Here's my "take" on it.
The "snapshot" / "grab shot" is a momentary impulse for the purpose of "don't forget the moment"..."remember this spot"... "Like this composition-can I build on this for a sketch or painting?".... Or..."Kim's getting in the car-wonder when he'll be back?"....momentary stuff to get at the moment or forever wish you had.
Such an image, to my mind...is "taken"...as is....off-the-rack as it were.
An image that is "made" is just that; one that is purposefully affected by the photographer's creative intent...in whatever possible ways that may be exercised and exhibited.

Just my "take" on the matter; " make" of it what you will!

Dave

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Jul 15, 2015 13:00:35   #
Chuck_893 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska, USA
 
boberic wrote:
Do photographers take or make photographs. Painters paint or make pictures. Not a life changing topic. Just curious

I usually say "make," on the principle that the process doesn't even really begin with the snap of the shutter (with the possible exception of the grab shot). There's a discussion elsewhere http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-323134-1.html of how people approach photography, and usually it involves some thought even before the shutter is tripped. Once the capture is made, at least in my case there is mandatory post-processing. I never consider a picture finished until I work it over, knowing that there is so much more information in that capture than is immediately perceived. I shot nothing but jpegs until this year, yet every one I show has been tweaked. So, I consider that I make pictures (most of the time). :lol:

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Jul 15, 2015 13:02:14   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
boberic wrote:
Do photographers take or make photographs. Painters paint or make pictures. Not a life changing topic. Just curious

I think, people take snapshots
Photographers make photographs

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Jul 15, 2015 13:13:32   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
boberic wrote:
Do photographers take or make photographs. Painters paint or make pictures. Not a life changing topic. Just curious

Also see here http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-323378-1.html

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Jul 15, 2015 13:21:21   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
I think I will answer my own question after reading all the opinions expressed here. Since a camera is only a tool (no matter the kind or the price) and as such photography is the use of that tool. As long as the image remains in the camera(weather film or digital), the photographer has taken the image. He/she has taken the picture from a studio or the environment. When that photographer decides to show that image , either in a foroum, such as this one, or a screen of some kind or a print, that image is then made. So to sum it all up and put it into one phrase--IT DEPENDS. thats my take on my own question

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Jul 15, 2015 13:34:42   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
boberic wrote:
...IT DEPENDS. thats my take on my own question

:thumbup:

Thanks again for your visit to this shiny new forum, Boberic.

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Jul 15, 2015 13:44:52   #
Frank2013 Loc: San Antonio, TX. & Milwaukee, WI.
 
So boberic has his answer. Using his logic I'm curious about everyone's thoughts on the painter. As long as he has the image in his brain it not made? Hasn't he created or made it by thinking of it and just not displayed it yet?

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Jul 15, 2015 15:28:17   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Frank2013 wrote:
So boberic has his answer. Using his logic I'm curious about everyone's thoughts on the painter. As long as he has the image in his brain it not made? Hasn't he created or made it by thinking of it and just not displayed it yet?


Interesting to ponder as I envision the painter starting the creative process as he/she puts brush to canvas - that the painting evolves as it's worked, and that what is in the painter's brain is just a rough draft :)

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