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Apr 21, 2015 08:29:48   #
INshooter Loc: Indiana
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
That subject presents a focusing challenge under any circumstances.

From the EXIF data: Nikon D7100, f/5.3, 640th sec., ISO 500, 240mm focal length.

The results are about as expected from those settings - very shallow depth of field, a little grainy. It also looks like there is motion blur in the image - surprising at that shutter speed.

Tell me what you were seeing and trying to do with that image and I can make suggestions.

Mike

I don't intend to highjack this thread but.....How do you access the EXIF data from the download. It's probably obvious but I'm ignorant on that issue

:)

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Apr 21, 2015 09:07:55   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
Tomwils wrote:
I recently submitted this photo in a contest, not expecting to win or even caring. It was judged out of contention because the center is soft, or out of focus. Will deceasing aperture a stop or two solve that?


I have a suggestion, if you want to take the back ground out when you shooting close up flower, mostly you will use wide open aperture to blur the back ground, but it will limit the DOF, so the flower will look soft in some part. For my flower shooting, I always use out board flash with defuser, set the camera on manual mode with aperture from f11-f22. This will darken the back ground and get the flower sharp in focus. Here's a sample, it not a very good shot but it shows how this work!


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Apr 21, 2015 11:26:33   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
INshooter wrote:
I don't intend to highjack this thread but.....How do you access the EXIF data from the download. It's probably obvious but I'm ignorant on that issue

:)


My understanding is that there are plug-ins for the various browsers. I look at it with Windows Explorer, though.

Mike

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Apr 21, 2015 20:43:31   #
Tomwils Loc: Crofton, Kentucky
 
Sorry I haven't responded to anyone, but I had back surgery this afternoon and just got home. All good suggestions and I will try them all. For viewing EXIF I open the file in a free program I've been using for years, Irfanview.

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Apr 26, 2015 12:52:46   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Other than the prior suggestions, I would recommend that you try this as a vertical orientation. This helps reinforce the flower as a vertical object. In a sense, this is a portrait-- and you generally would not shoot a full-length portrait using "landscape" orientation.

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Apr 26, 2015 13:05:54   #
Tomwils Loc: Crofton, Kentucky
 
Thanks Allen. That is something I had not considered but can see several advantages. Just as soon as I am able to get out and about I will give your suggestion a try. You are right, it is a portrait, not a landscape. Live and learn, ask and learn more.

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May 17, 2015 07:43:36   #
2nefoto
 
when using your macro lens at close range, it becomes very important to close your lens down. if not using a ring flash or other close up type lighting, a tripod is also a great idea. Good luck!

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May 17, 2015 08:02:06   #
Tomwils Loc: Crofton, Kentucky
 
Thank you 2nefoto.

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May 17, 2015 08:13:12   #
Tomwils Loc: Crofton, Kentucky
 
I was refreshing my memory on this thread when I found that I had ignored a response from photophred and wingclui44. I appreciate the responses and apologize profusely for not acknowledging your responses. I have become very aware of the impact the background has on a shallow DOF photo and have started experimenting with the suggestions presented here, which includes using a blackboard behind the subject. I may post that photo under a new topic today.

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May 17, 2015 08:43:53   #
wingclui44 Loc: CT USA
 
Tomwils wrote:
I was refreshing my memory on this thread when I found that I had ignored a response from photophred and wingclui44. I appreciate the responses and apologize profusely for not acknowledging your responses. I have become very aware of the impact the background has on a shallow DOF photo and have started experimenting with the suggestions presented here, which includes using a blackboard behind the subject. I may post that photo under a new topic today.


No need to apologize! Hope you feel better after your back surgery! Wish you have a speedy recovery!

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May 17, 2015 08:48:52   #
Tomwils Loc: Crofton, Kentucky
 
Thank you so much wingclui44.

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May 25, 2015 04:00:02   #
Macronaut Loc: Redondo Beach,Ca.
 
INshooter wrote:
I don't intend to highjack this thread but.....How do you access the EXIF data from the download. It's probably obvious but I'm ignorant on that issue

:)

I'm using this one http://www.opanda.com/en/iexif/download.htm (free)

Or you can search EXIF viewers. Lots of free ones.

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Jun 2, 2015 15:03:55   #
Ansel Rosewater
 
Congratulations...

I think it's a wonderful picture... The background blur is often an effect I try for using Photoshop. You've done it when taking the picture... and the effect is very professional. For getting the center sharper, one might have increased the aperature to increase the depth of field to include the outer petals and the center. Of course, the background would not have the wonderful effect you now have.

I tried to sharpen the center by using the "select tool" and then using the "sharpen" feature under Filters.



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Jun 2, 2015 15:16:39   #
Tomwils Loc: Crofton, Kentucky
 
Thank you very much, Ansel.

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Jul 11, 2015 16:13:38   #
Michael feather Frame Loc: Middleburg, Fl
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Is that Woodland Phlox out in the wild? I may have cleared some of the dead leaves out of the background, and focused on the center of the nearest blossom from a little lower angle. Is sun bouncing off of the leaves in the background, but not hitting the flowers? If so, I would have shaded the background. Sometimes that means mounting the camera on a tripod, using a cable release, and shading the background with my body, or sometimes I use an umbrella.

It would be just about impossible to get that entire flower head in focus unless you took multiple frames and stacked them in post processing. so no sense trying to do what cannot be done. That means you have to carefully choose a spot to focus. I would have focused on the nearest flower. The EXIF data doesn't tell me the lens you used, I am thinking a zoom lens. Focal length will affect composition a lot.

I find that background distracting myself and would have shot from a lower angle, or used flash to get more "separation" between the subject and the background and possibly a more pleasing background color. Sometimes I shade the background, as I said above.

You shouldn't need a tripod for that image, necessarily, although it could help. The table top thingees are useless in my experience. I have a tripod that will take the camera right down to the ground, but I hand hold at 1/100th sec. or faster (with 100mm lens, down to 1/30th sec. with a 50mm lens), or when using flash on extreme close-ups or true macros.

How come the motion blur? Was it extremely windy? Were you in an awkward position? 1/640th ought to stop motion.

Good challenge, nice choice of subject, good idea for the image, and close to being a great image.

Mike
Is that Woodland Phlox out in the wild? I may have... (show quote)
Very Good ! Enfo

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