7100 metering: Hi Hogs; I have a 7100 taking bball shot using the back button; I have been using Matrix metering and wonder if I should be using Center weighted or Spot Metering? I...

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Mar 10, 2015 17:59:31 #

trainguy Loc: Suttons Bay, MI

Hi Hogs; I have a 7100 taking bball shot using the back button; I have been using Matrix metering and wonder if I should be using Center weighted or Spot Metering? I Bbutton on the player and follow him for the shot. Any and all questions or comments appreciated

Thanks; Dave

Mar 10, 2015 18:28:31 #

wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska

Dave - This may be sort of a dumb answear but why don't you just try it and see what works best for you? Center metering is a holdover from film cameras and I would not reomend it for anything. I have my func buttom set to spot metering so If I am not sure what I want I just change back and forth and then use what I like the best. - Dave

Mar 10, 2015 18:32:00 #

Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

trainguy wrote:

For the entire game, how much does the light change between any two shots????

Not even one iota! Think about that. If you set the exposure for the first shot and get it right, why not use manual and then get all of the shots following that right? The best way is to put ISO and Exposure both on manual, then make a few test shots while checking the histogram. The brightest whites on the floor should be almost all the way to the right on the histogram, but not touching the edge.

The same settings will be correct for the entire game. What could happen though is making a decision to get a shot that is not on the floor, but in the stands or in a corner. Any location where the light is different requires changing the settings.

Mar 10, 2015 19:04:37 #

trainguy Loc: Suttons Bay, MI

Thanks Apaflo; I haven't learned the histogram yet and can use what you said to do some tests. What do you see in the photos I took last night?

Thanks

dave

Mar 10, 2015 19:09:33 #

trainguy Loc: Suttons Bay, MI

That was my plan for tomorrow but thought I'd ask the question to see if there was a definite answer; as usual there seems to be as many answers as possibilities. I was hoping there was a bball shooter out there that would say this is the way.

Thanks

Dave

Mar 10, 2015 19:25:49 #

Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

trainguy wrote:

Thanks Apaflo; I haven't learned the histogram yet and can use what you said to do some tests. What do you see in the photos I took last night?

Thanks

dave

Repost one or two images, but click on the "store original" button when you do. That allows us to see the Exif data attached to the image.

The biggest problem with any kind of "event" photography in a typical gymnasium is the low level of illumination. With basketball you want to keep the shutter speed up fairly high of course, and that means that expensive f/2.8 lenses are nice, and high ISO settings are required.

The higher the ISO the less dynamic range, and that means shadows will be blocking out as all black. You won't see much detail on the folks in the bleachers (which is fine, you don't want the distraction!), but it also means the player's uniforms will not look as nice as they would if you take shots of them in daylight.

Your images were just a bit too dark. They looked really good when boosted a little in an editor with a curves tool.

Mar 11, 2015 06:02:56 #

pumpkinbrat Loc: Waterville, NY

What lens are you using?

Mar 11, 2015 08:40:13 #

trainguy Loc: Suttons Bay, MI

sigma 17-70 2.8-4.5

Mar 11, 2015 08:47:49 #

pumpkinbrat Loc: Waterville, NY

I shoot basketball. Our home Waterville Varsity Basketball Team is 23-0 and is the only last Class C Team in New York State undefeated.Headed towards the State Final Four. I been shooting them all season. You need a fast lens. A 50mm f/1.8 you can use shooting on the baseline by the basket. Or a 80-200 or 70-200 f/2.8 lens. When your out at 70mm your at f/4.5. Not good.I just got a old lens, Nikon 35-70 f/2.8 from KEH.com. Looks brand new but it's used. One awesome lens...

Mar 11, 2015 09:19:03 #

trainguy Loc: Suttons Bay, MI

I have used my 70-200 2.8 but find few shots needed over 70. I spend one quarter at each corner under our basket. As I review my shots most are at 35. Look at these, they just aren't crisp and clear like yours, have any suggestions? I'm using the bbutton, 1/500, iso 6400 and fluorescent 2. The blue in this gym is difficult. We are there tonight for the second game of the districts. I've been asked by the local paper to get shots of both games tonight as their photographer can't make it so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Did you work with these in dark room r anything?

Thanks; Dave

Mar 11, 2015 09:29:01 #

pumpkinbrat Loc: Waterville, NY

The photo you see is like the other thousand I took this season. Most using a 50mm f/1.8. Which with the crop factor of your camera would be 75mm. My photo's are untouched. I don't have light room software. Plus I post my photo's on facebook right after the game. So I don't have time for something like lightroom. Last Sunday after our championship game, I uploaded 212 pictures on facebook. it would take weeks to edit that many I think. Don't know, never tried software to make better.. Just plan Jpeg's

Mar 11, 2015 09:33:02 #

trainguy Loc: Suttons Bay, MI

OK we are on the same page so is it the setting or the lens; your shot is just clearer than mine???

Thanks; Dave

Mar 11, 2015 09:45:27 #

pumpkinbrat Loc: Waterville, NY

The camera was set on f/2.2. But in darker gyms I shot a lot at f/1.8. My ISO is set on auto at 3200. Shutter is 1/500. I shoot in manual always..Have to changed any setting in the camera menu or is all the settings for the whole camera still set at all defaults

Mar 11, 2015 09:52:14 #

R.G. Loc: Scotland

pumpkinbrat wrote:

.....a 50mm f/1.8. Which with the crop factor of your camera would be 75mm.....

You're going the wrong way with the crop factor. The equivalent of 50mm for a full frame camera would be 33.3mm for the D7100. This equates to the 35mm that he says he uses for most of his shots.

If you think that a 50mm FF lens is appropriate for this kind of shooting, a 35mm prime would be a direct equivalent for the D7100.

Mar 11, 2015 09:53:30 #

trainguy Loc: Suttons Bay, MI

I just checked and most of the shot are at 3.5-3.8. When I crop them maybe that is the difference. Also I'm shooting at 6400; do you think switching to 3200 would help? I can't get another lens for tonight and it is difficult to se changes on the camera screen so taking test shot during warmups only helps with light
Thanks; dave

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