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Feb 26, 2012 08:55:23   #
Shane T Loc: Central Florida
 
I shot these yesterday and the sky was very gloomy. A soup of fog,smoke and heavy low clouds. Not I day I would normally be shooting on but the opportunity to photograph a group of wood storks was just to good to pass up.
My camera is a Canon T2i with a Tamron 70-300 and the birds were across the lake so I am slightly pushing the limits of the lens I have but nothing really bad. Should have still been able to get at least something decent. Not perfection but still something decent. These photos were taken at 1/1000 with an f5.6. I had to keep bumping up the ISO to 1600 to even see the birds on my screen. My question is how do you guys shoot and get decent pics on days like this?
The sky in these pics looks exactly like the sky I was shooting against.





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Feb 26, 2012 09:05:48   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
which Tamron 70-300 is it. i just got a sigma 70 300 dg it's a light hog

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Feb 26, 2012 09:16:44   #
Shane T Loc: Central Florida
 
The f/4-5.6

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Feb 26, 2012 09:32:37   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
di or sp need what is staped on it

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Feb 26, 2012 09:33:47   #
Shane T Loc: Central Florida
 
Di

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Feb 26, 2012 09:38:24   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
that one has a 62 mm glass what f stop was you using was you pointing to sky or down below tree tops

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Feb 26, 2012 09:46:07   #
Shane T Loc: Central Florida
 
I was set at f5.6 and was trying to meter off the birds themselves.

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Feb 26, 2012 11:45:56   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
In scenes like this one, you have to use RAW as it has a greater dynamic range and will allow you, in post production do gain back the highlights, or at least part of it.

In this particular case, you would have to expose for RAW, using a middle ground between high and and dark. Then post produce for both.

About the flying bird, if on the original you have a distinct edge (post original, that would avoid the 'if' - Note that a strong doubt about this as the neck appears to have melted with the sky) you can PP it into a different sky, using layers.

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Feb 26, 2012 13:45:55   #
Bobber Loc: Fredericksburg, Texas
 
English_Wolf wrote:
In scenes like this one, you have to use RAW as it has a greater dynamic range and will allow you, in post production do gain back the highlights, or at least part of it.

In this particular case, you would have to expose for RAW, using a middle ground between high and dark. Then post produce for both.

About the flying bird, if on the original you have a distinct edge (post original, that would avoid the 'if' - Note that a strong doubt about this as the neck appears to have melted with the sky) you can PP it into a different sky, using layers.
In scenes like this one, you have to use RAW as it... (show quote)


You are right, Wolf, about the original being useful in PP in this case. Even the one posted here has a fair amount of definition. Selecting on the sky will already isolate the bird rather well. Artifacts show up near the edges of the bird that have to be dealt with. But, without the original this one still yields a rather zigzag result in some areas where the details in the feathers are one pixel wide. This is particularly true at the wing tips. I had quite a bit of re-working to do on such details there and elsewhere. Otherwise, I was surprised at how well it turned out.

Its quite a bit of work overall, and a good original exposure certainly avoids the trouble or at least most of it.

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Feb 26, 2012 13:56:03   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
Bobber wrote:
.../... This is particularly true at the wing tips. I had quite a bit of re-working to do on such details there and elsewhere. Otherwise, I was surprised at how well it turned out..../...
Why don't you ask Shane T if you can post your result with a short tutorial on how to?

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Feb 26, 2012 15:38:58   #
Shane T Loc: Central Florida
 
English_Wolf wrote:
In scenes like this one, you have to use RAW as it has a greater dynamic range and will allow you, in post production do gain back the highlights, or at least part of it.

In this particular case, you would have to expose for RAW, using a middle ground between high and and dark. Then post produce for both.

About the flying bird, if on the original you have a distinct edge (post original, that would avoid the 'if' - Note that a strong doubt about this as the neck appears to have melted with the sky) you can PP it into a different sky, using layers.
In scenes like this one, you have to use RAW as it... (show quote)


Thank you so much for you reply. I really need to get over my fear of shooting RAW. I will have to work on that. Thanks again for the help. I really appreciate it!

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Feb 26, 2012 15:42:37   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
Check the link on my signature and open RAW vs JOG, there is nothing to be worried about. I am also preparing a couple of tutorials on that subject.

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Feb 26, 2012 15:43:21   #
Shane T Loc: Central Florida
 
Bobber wrote:
English_Wolf wrote:
In scenes like this one, you have to use RAW as it has a greater dynamic range and will allow you, in post production do gain back the highlights, or at least part of it.

In this particular case, you would have to expose for RAW, using a middle ground between high and dark. Then post produce for both.

About the flying bird, if on the original you have a distinct edge (post original, that would avoid the 'if' - Note that a strong doubt about this as the neck appears to have melted with the sky) you can PP it into a different sky, using layers.
In scenes like this one, you have to use RAW as it... (show quote)


You are right, Wolf, about the original being useful in PP in this case. Even the one posted here has a fair amount of definition. Selecting on the sky will already isolate the bird rather well. Artifacts show up near the edges of the bird that have to be dealt with. But, without the original this one still yields a rather zigzag result in some areas where the details in the feathers are one pixel wide. This is particularly true at the wing tips. I had quite a bit of re-working to do on such details there and elsewhere. Otherwise, I was surprised at how well it turned out.

Its quite a bit of work overall, and a good original exposure certainly avoids the trouble or at least most of it.
quote=English_Wolf In scenes like this one, you h... (show quote)


I would definitely love to see what you have accomplished with the rework and any help with a tutorial would be greatly appreciated.
My reasoning for posting this in the first place was to learn how to take a better photo in these kind of conditions but if this is all i can come up with then knowing how to rework would my next thing to learn.
Thanks in advance for all your work.

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Feb 26, 2012 16:07:27   #
Shane T Loc: Central Florida
 
English_Wolf wrote:
Check the link on my signature and open RAW vs JOG, there is nothing to be worried about. I am also preparing a couple of tutorials on that subject.


Thank you so much for the info and the link. I am now trying to find my owners manual (which should be in my camera bag but isn't :evil: ) to review what it has to say as well.

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Feb 26, 2012 17:42:00   #
Bobber Loc: Fredericksburg, Texas
 
Sorry I took so long. Hey, I got involved in some concentrated experimentation. My first work in RAW, devising a device for taming my on camera flash, one that is more convenient than using one hand to hold up a paper towel over the thing, and putting the said device to use in a self portrait session to be posted under the Discussion Topics.


Now for the tutorial. Please wait. I have to remember. It's been over five minutes, and a lot of activity in between. I'll start working on it.



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