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Jan 8, 2012 23:34:49   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Lucian wrote:
Some bad advice is being given here on using sharpies. Those giving this advice, please let us know where you researched this advice, to be sure you were not giving wrong info to some poor unsuspectiing sole, despite you good intentions of course.

NEVER use a sharpie on a CD, a Sharpie has acid in the ink and it will eventually eat through the very thin layer on the top of a CD or DVD and that will destroy your data of the image file embedded into the undersurface of the CD/DVD.

There are proper acid free pens designed specifically for writing on a CD or DVD and only these should be used to write on such a thing, if you really care about the info you have engraved on there. It may take many months, it make take a year, or longer, but, the ink of a Sharpie or other marker type pen, WILL eat through the top surface eventually and destroy your image files where it has touched it.

There are special pens for archival writing on photographs and CD/DVD discs and only these should be used, in order not to damage the print or files engraved. A true pro at a good art shop will know what to use, don't just ask any employee at any craft or art shop, because working there does not make them an expert in all fields of what that shop sells.

Please be sure you know what you are saying when offering advice to others on these forums, because I'm sure you have the best intentions when offering advice, just be sure you are also offering correct advice.

This was not meant to belittle anyone offering any advice here, just a heads up on what to think about before offering advice. If it is just something you do, rather than something you know for a fact is a safe practise to do, make sure you state that when answering. Please don't take what I've said the wrong way.
Some bad advice is being given here on using sharp... (show quote)


I have been using Sharpies to label all my CD's containing my government files since 1999. In fact the government office I worked for recommended ONLY Sharpie instruments to label archival CDs. Most of my older ones are filed away in storage boxes, but here is a pic of CD's labeled with Sharpie pens from 2003 and one from 2004 and they exhibit NO damages whatsoever from the Sharpie markings on them. I loaded them both up and the files read perfectly, and they are images, not documents. I will continue to use the Sharpie as it is truly permanent ink and appears to have absolutely no detrimental effect whatsoever on the plastic that CD's are made of.
Perhaps you can show us an example of damage from Sharpie ink to back up your claim?

Sharpie on CD, no damages
Sharpie on CD, no damages...

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Jan 8, 2012 23:57:00   #
Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
 
At a 3 day Photoshop world event run by NAPP, they had a seminar on archival materials and it was strongly recommended not to use sharpie type pens due to the acid leaching onto the discs and they did say eventually. Of course there are good and bad discs out there too that have better and not so good top coverings. The best are special gold disks that were about $10 each but they did state that to be safe, only use pens specifically designed for writing on DVD and CD disks. This came from industry experts who had researched such information with suppliers.

I'm pleased for you that you have seen no damage to your discs but of course the cheapest discs out there will also not last the test of time with holding the info, so be sure to use an archival CD or DVD for important info that you want to keep for many, many years to come.

I will be happier going by the info from a respected association like NAPP when it comes to what is best to write on a DVD or CD with, and as I said, I'm pleased yours are still working fine for you.

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Jan 9, 2012 00:13:28   #
JimKing Loc: Salisbury, Maryland USA
 
photoninja1 wrote:
Sign a white paper, photograph it, remove the background and assign the signature to a brush in PS. No archival problems and you can put it wherever you want in whatever color suits the picture. I imagine the procedure can be adapted to other editing programs.


Yeah, but it's not a signature. I do pencil on the matt and I recognize the problems with that.

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Jan 9, 2012 23:45:20   #
robertperry Loc: Sacramento, Ca.
 
Lucian wrote:
Some bad advice is being given here on using sharpies. Those giving this advice, please let us know where you researched this advice, to be sure you were not giving wrong info to some poor unsuspectiing sole, despite you good intentions of course.

NEVER use a sharpie on a CD, a Sharpie has acid in the ink and it will eventually eat through the very thin layer on the top of a CD or DVD and that will destroy your data of the image file embedded into the undersurface of the CD/DVD.

There are proper acid free pens designed specifically for writing on a CD or DVD and only these should be used to write on such a thing, if you really care about the info you have engraved on there. It may take many months, it make take a year, or longer, but, the ink of a Sharpie or other marker type pen, WILL eat through the top surface eventually and destroy your image files where it has touched it.

There are special pens for archival writing on photographs and CD/DVD discs and only these should be used, in order not to damage the print or files engraved. A true pro at a good art shop will know what to use, don't just ask any employee at any craft or art shop, because working there does not make them an expert in all fields of what that shop sells.

Please be sure you know what you are saying when offering advice to others on these forums, because I'm sure you have the best intentions when offering advice, just be sure you are also offering correct advice.

This was not meant to belittle anyone offering any advice here, just a heads up on what to think about before offering advice. If it is just something you do, rather than something you know for a fact is a safe practise to do, make sure you state that when answering. Please don't take what I've said the wrong way.
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Nicely put Lucian. I have never signed with a sharpie. I have always used an archival pen and recently started using a calligraphy pen to sign photos only. Nothing written on CD's, only the protective case they are stored in and careful not to mix then up.

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Jan 10, 2012 07:07:39   #
KyBeth Loc: western Kentucky
 
Thanks again to all who have taken their time to help. Yesterday I went to Office Depot and found some fine line markers - Prismacolor by Sanford - that claim to be acid free, lightfast and archival quality. I'll try them out when I get home from work today and let you know how they write on slick photo paper.

Love this forum! It is much like my local photography club - a bunch of really knowledgeable folks who answer my dumb beginner questions without making me feel like a dumb beginner!

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Jan 20, 2012 22:13:36   #
bvargas Loc: Palm Harbor, Florida
 
SHARPIE makes a CD Marker, that is Acid Free. Comes in Ultra Fine. Has a large tip & also a very fine tip, on the same pen.

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Jan 20, 2012 22:16:41   #
KyBeth Loc: western Kentucky
 
Thanks - I'll look for them at my local office supply stores.

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Jan 20, 2012 23:15:53   #
Ronny Loc: Netherlands
 
There are 3 types of ball pen refills, water type ink, oil type ink and gel type ink. Just as a hobby I bought several luxury pens, like Waterman, Pelikan, Conklin and Parker and I learn about the different types of ink. But I really do not know whicH one is the best to use for writing on a photo. I am sure it is the ink and not the brand you can count on.

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Jan 21, 2012 20:19:09   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
Deleted comment, sorry my fault.

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