dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

it winter coming from north.

pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

Typical lib. I never called Obummer a Communist. Maybe I added to a thread where someone else did, but my follow up posts are my own. If you post to a thread I guess I can freely associate you with any other posts. I do feel Obummer falls in the category of a Socialist. If you are referring to a post I made of a quote credited to Karl Marx you have taken that out of context. That's a typical liberal technique. Ok, let's move on.

The fiscal cliff was needed to try to curb runaway spending that was going crazy on Obama's watch. It was both parties bailing water INTO a sinking ship. So I don't hold Obama responsible. I hold all the idiots in Congress responsible.

The government snooping is going to continue regardless of what party holds office. It's a necessary evil these days. The technology is there and you can't close Pandora's box.


Government meddling? Get real. What is the government not meddling in. Bailouts of private businesses or corporations. Taking over the health insurance system. Banking (although that more involves the Federal Reserve which is NOT FEDERAL. Passing laws to make this country less competitive in the world markets. (again both parties but Obama doesn't seem to mind).
Ignoring immigration laws already on the books and making enforcing those laws more difficult. Allowing the Attorney General to stay in office. An Attorney General who has disgraced the office but Obama looks the other way.

If you have knowledge of a crime or an impending crime and do nothing you are guilty of abetting that crime. Obummer should have been tossed out long ago. Just like Nikon.
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Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal

Oh, one more thing, you just saying I am off base does not make it true. Thats the kind of argument children have.

What's next? Going to stick out your tongue? Give me the finger?

If you want to be in an adult conversation, you need to do better than that. I prefer to leave the mindless mud slinging to the juveniles who dominate this forum.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Setting the English lesson aside, and the Communist statement, the "implication" of your remark about the unemployment rate although accurate does not consider the labor participation rate which is at its lowest point since Jimmy "Malaise" Carter held office, this last .3 drop that we experienced last month can be fully attributed to folks just simply giving up.

And Yes! The NSA is off the hook under president Obama, much less restrained than it was even under Bush. The both Democratic and Republican law makers have spoken to the fact that domestic surveillance has greatly increased under the Obama administration.

US credit rating? Please I suppose that it has nothing to do with the 17+ Trillion dollar debt and no budget forecasts that even begin to address the explosive growth in our nations debt... Let's see that would be some $12 Trillion in the last 12 or so years... But go ahead and blame it on the republicans, I am sure that was the primary cause of the downgrade... up is down and down is up.

Government meddling? Do you really have to look further than the ACA?

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Really? You consider my comment questioning the accuracy of your comments in context to the post to which you were responding as "sticking out my tongue" or "giving you the finger"? Mud slinging"?

Hey I have an idea, why don't you grow up a little.

COI Jack Loc: Missouri

Fact- the US credit rating downgrade was the direct result of the Republican Congress taking us over the fiscal cliff.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Yes, that is true in the upside down world of a democrat... I will not deny that.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

the cliff thing was retribution of not able making him one term pres.... lol they can't do nothin right.

COI Jack Loc: Missouri

Whatever that means.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

I think that the actual fiscal cliff that we went over was before the presidential election, even so my comment about the staggering national debt being a prime factor stands.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

The United States fiscal cliff was a situation that came into existence in January 2013 whereby a series of previously enacted laws would simultaneously come into effect.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

It simply means that you and I will not agree and that even the statement issued by the credit rating organizations spoke to the national debt, our budgets, and the forecast for future debt etc.... and yes the inability of our congress and the executive to come together and deal with budgetary issues was also mentioned, only the last part was sized upon by liberals and democrats while denying the impact of the rest of the credit rating statement.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Yes, I think that maybe you are correct, it must have been a waterfall that we went over in 2011 and not a cliff, I get so confused with the dumbass feds and our media's colorful terminology to explain the shenanigans of the federal government.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

actually it was to force Republicans in Congress to reconsider measures to raise revenue – and it strengthened Obama's hand in any plans to allow the Bush-era tax cuts to expire, raising an additional $3tn over the next decade.

TheDoctor Loc: NoVa

Nice place to visit...wouldn't want to live there.