LGilbert wrote:
The only time a quality battery will leak is when the electrolyte inside is no longer holding a charge and the ionic balance is no longer being maintained, reverting the electrolyte to be a free radical and eat the battery casing. Batteries will die over time as well as through use. An unused battery will remain charged and in good condition for a couple of years, enough that you will not notice it has lost some of its capacity. However, once it has had some of its capacity discharged, it becomes acidic. The more it is discharged, the greater the corrosive capacity of the electrolyte. So, you use half the battery capacity in your flashlight (and the light is still as bright as new) and then set it in a cool place to continue on its way, eating itself up. As the internal structure is consumed and the electrolyte decays, it shorts out the battery internally and then it really goes to town eating the casing.
Bottom line: New batteries have a shelf life and will eventually consume themselves. Half used batteries should be removed from devices when constant use is not anticipated as they have already started digesting....
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Thank you, VERY INFORMATIVE. I really appreciate it, it also explains a lot.
LGilbert wrote:
The only time a quality battery will leak is when the electrolyte inside is no longer holding a charge and the ionic balance is no longer being maintained, reverting the electrolyte to be a free radical and eat the battery casing. Batteries will die over time as well as through use. An unused battery will remain charged and in good condition for a couple of years, enough that you will not notice it has lost some of its capacity. However, once it has had some of its capacity discharged, it becomes acidic. The more it is discharged, the greater the corrosive capacity of the electrolyte. So, you use half the battery capacity in your flashlight (and the light is still as bright as new) and then set it in a cool place to continue on its way, eating itself up. As the internal structure is consumed and the electrolyte decays, it shorts out the battery internally and then it really goes to town eating the casing.
Bottom line: New batteries have a shelf life and will eventually consume themselves. Half used batteries should be removed from devices when constant use is not anticipated as they have already started digesting....
The only time a quality battery will leak is when ... (
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This puzzled me since in my experience leaks were alkaline, so I did some searching. This from Wikipedia:
Leaks
Leaked alkaline battery
Alkaline batteries are prone to leaking potassium hydroxide, a caustic agent that can cause respiratory, eye and skin irritation.[note 1] This can be reduced by not attempting to recharge disposable alkaline cells, not mixing different battery types in the same device, replacing all of the batteries at the same time, storing in a dry place, and removing batteries for storage of devices.
All batteries gradually self-discharge (whether installed in a device or not) and dead batteries will eventually leak. Extremely high temperatures can also cause batteries to rupture and leak (such as in a car during summer).
The reason for leaks is that as batteries discharge either through usage or gradual self-discharge the chemistry of the cells changes and some hydrogen gas is generated. This out-gassing increases pressure in the battery. Eventually, the excess pressure either ruptures the insulating seals at the end of the battery, or the outer metal canister, or both. In addition, as the battery ages, its steel outer canister may gradually corrode or rust, which can further contribute to containment failure.
Once a leak has formed due to corrosion of the outer steel shell, potassium hydroxide absorbs carbon dioxide from the air to form a feathery crystalline structure of potassium carbonate that grows and spreads out from the battery over time, following along metal electrodes to circuit boards where it commences oxidation of copper tracks and other components, leading to permanent circuitry damage.
The leaking crystalline growths can also emerge from seams around battery covers to form a furry coating outside the device, that corrodes any objects in contact with the leaking device.
Budnjax wrote:
I find that about 10% of the Energizer or Duracell AA batteries I buy leak....sometimes while still in the package, even though they are stored in a cool, dark, dry drawer. I've had numerous flashlights ruined due to this and have had leakage-caused corrosion in quite a few flash guns, etc. Has anyone found any brand of AA alkaline or lithium batteries that DON'T leak?
Let's answer this question with another question. Are there any unsinkable ships?
Budnjax wrote:
I find that about 10% of the Energizer or Duracell AA batteries I buy leak....sometimes while still in the package, even though they are stored in a cool, dark, dry drawer. I've had numerous flashlights ruined due to this and have had leakage-caused corrosion in quite a few flash guns, etc. Has anyone found any brand of AA alkaline or lithium batteries that DON'T leak?
FYI Doc ..... if a Energizer or Duracell leaks inside a battery run item it gets replaced for free ..... D's leaked in my Maglite and Duracell paid me for a replacement .....
And I would not touch Rayovac batteries with a ten foot pole. Leak like a sieve
I have seen all major brands leak. I know rayovac will pay for any damaged items.
As I said in a previous post, I made about $500.00 from one replacement.
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
And I would not touch Rayovac batteries with a ten foot pole. Leak like a sieve
Budnjax wrote:
I find that about 10% of the Energizer or Duracell AA batteries I buy leak....sometimes while still in the package, even though they are stored in a cool, dark, dry drawer. I've had numerous flashlights ruined due to this and have had leakage-caused corrosion in quite a few flash guns, etc. Has anyone found any brand of AA alkaline or lithium batteries that DON'T leak?
Well Doc ..... ya gotta stop storing em under ya stove .....
Bpace wrote:
I have seen all major brands leak. I know rayovac will pay for any damaged items.
As I said in a previous post, I made about $500.00 from one replacement.
And Bill Clinton said he didn't have sex with that girl. (Monica)
Shutterbugsailer wrote:
And Bill Clinton said he didn't have sex with that girl. (Monica)
And Monica's still around Doc .....
Before changing to eneloop..I always used Energizers..I must have used hundreds and never had a single leak... In fact I have just looked at 2 packs with a use by date of 2026 that I've had for ages and ... no leaks..
n3eg
Loc: West coast USA
Who can forget the brown rusty contacts on the toys we had as kids? The Ray-O-Leak blue and yellow batteries with the green tape to wick the electrolyte right out of them?
All alkaline and carbon zinc batteries will eventually leak.
Bpace wrote:
Your point is??
My point is this; Don't believe everything you hear/read. In the case of batteries leaking, while I don't feel that Rayovac, Energizer or Duracell would argue over replacing a damaged flashlight, were a $500.00 camera damaged in the same way, they might argue the point
I haven't had a battery leak for a long time. Back in the old days I had several leak and like others here the manufacturers sent replacements. I have never seen any leak in the package. Where were these from?
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