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Oct 16, 2013 10:40:22   #
FrumCA
 
Frank T wrote:
Silly boy. I pay more in taxes than you make a year.
BTW - People pay for Obamacare according to their income so they're no different than you.
That's the problem you folks have. Some of you seem to be missing a heart and are fine watching poor people starve to death, as long as it isn't you.

So the proposal to have folks who are in the exchanges pay a $63 per head tax to subsidize Obamacare is OK with you? And it's OK that folks are either losing their current insurance or finding their premium costs doubling or tripling in order to retain the same level of coverage they had pre-obamacare?



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Oct 16, 2013 10:43:26   #
raferrelljr Loc: CHARLOTTE, NC
 
FrumCA wrote:
So the proposal to have folks who are in the exchanges pay a $63 per head tax to subsidize Obamacare is OK with you? And it's OK that folks are either losing their current insurance or finding their premium costs doubling or tripling in order to retain the same level of coverage they had pre-obamacare?


Don't forget about having to pay all of your new sky high deducatble before a hospital will treat you, for me that is $5,000.00.

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Oct 16, 2013 10:44:34   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
raferrelljr wrote:
Why do liberials think that because someone has earned something that they should not except it when it is due?


How about worse case thinking: He DIDN'T earn it, but they gave him the Nobel Prize anyway, and he accepted it.

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Oct 16, 2013 10:46:43   #
raferrelljr Loc: CHARLOTTE, NC
 
FrumCA wrote:
So the proposal to have folks who are in the exchanges pay a $63 per head tax to subsidize Obamacare is OK with you? And it's OK that folks are either losing their current insurance or finding their premium costs doubling or tripling in order to retain the same level of coverage they had pre-obamacare?


Hey "Frank T", if you are so rich just write a big'ol check to Obama. I sure he will give you some kind of kick-back. Or maybe give you one of the 2500 waivers off Obamacare.

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Oct 16, 2013 10:48:53   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Wake up, it is the middle class wealth that is getting spread!!!

rook2c4 wrote:
It's what nearly every other advanced nation has in place. Even Italy, one of the politically most conservative nations in Europe has a similar system. And spreading the wealth is a good thing, unless you happen to be an overpaid corporate CEO or banker. More money in the pockets (and thereby greater spending power) of the poor and middle class is what boosts the economy, not less. The more spending, the more is produced, and thereby more jobs, and jobs with better pay. The only ones drinking the koolaide are the ones buying into the myth of trickle down economics and how wealth needs to be further concentrated among the already wealthy.
It's what nearly every other advanced nation has i... (show quote)

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Oct 16, 2013 10:51:52   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
JR1 wrote:
To be honest do you think "he" cares


Actually JR, I personally think he could care less. That is the problem.

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Oct 16, 2013 10:52:41   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
Danilo wrote:
If he were only destroying something he, himself built, we could all just stand by, laughing and smiling. Unfortunately, that is not the case.
While I think it speaks well of America that a black president was elected (and that is not the problem), the particular president, with his particular designs on OUR country, is a huge problem. I can't personally relate to his spitefulness toward OUR country, and OUR citizens, but I can recognize hatred when I see it. I see no reason whatsoever to respect this individual, or what he's doing to our treasured America.
If he were only destroying something he, himself b... (show quote)


Sadly, this is correct. :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Oct 16, 2013 10:56:49   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
rook2c4 wrote:
It's what nearly every other advanced nation has in place. Even Italy, one of the politically most conservative nations in Europe has a similar system. And spreading the wealth is a good thing, unless you happen to be an overpaid corporate CEO or banker. More money in the pockets (and thereby greater spending power) of the poor and middle class is what boosts the economy, not less. The more spending, the more is produced, and thereby more jobs, and jobs with better pay. The only ones drinking the koolaide are the ones buying into the myth of trickle down economics and how wealth needs to be further concentrated among the already wealthy.
It's what nearly every other advanced nation has i... (show quote)


Funny you brought up Italy. I wish I could show you the conversation I had with an Italian doctor yesterday, who is also now a very good friend, stating the decline of Italy. He says there are very few private businesses now and many more people dependent on government. He said that the people have apparently realized there is not enough private business to sustain a majority working public, so therefore everyone has given up and now letting the government run their lives. This man is a genius (by I.Q.) and torn apart about what has happened to his country.

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Oct 16, 2013 10:57:57   #
raferrelljr Loc: CHARLOTTE, NC
 
Penny MG wrote:
Actually JR, I personally think he could care less. That is the problem.


Exactly. He cares nothing about the American people or their problems, as long as he and michelle can jet all over the world at our expense costing us hundreds of millions of dollars. Too speak in the vernacular: They ain't worth it.

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Oct 16, 2013 10:58:13   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
sarge69 wrote:
A thought that goes through my head about all this and the Obummer care is:

Too many folks say 'The rest of the world is doing it' yet I don't see another system that is trying to have 50 million people pay for the 300 million that are takers without jobs and on 'Professional Welfare Status'

I don't like paying for deadbeats no matter how many times you tell me 'it's the thing to do'

Sarge69


absolutely right! :thumbup:

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Oct 16, 2013 10:58:50   #
Penny MG Loc: Fresno, Texas
 
Danilo wrote:
If you believe that "spreading the wealth" is a good thing, rook2c4, you are absolutely allowed to spread YOUR wealth in any manner you see fit. Many wealthy people share with others willingly. In a free society, based on individual liberty, such generosity is admired, but must not be mandatory. This country, while being the most successful of all governing systems, has always been one of the most charitable in all the world.
Just because you paint your house red, doesn't make it wise to dictate all others do the same.
If you believe that "spreading the wealth&quo... (show quote)


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Oct 16, 2013 11:00:25   #
FrumCA
 
raferrelljr wrote:
Don't forget about having to pay all of your new sky high deducatble before a hospital will treat you, for me that is $5,000.00.

I heard a woman talking the other day about how her current out if pocket $$ of $2500 is going to be $12,000 if she keeps her same insurance company. Her company told her that the increase is needed to cover the costs of Obamacare. Needless to say she is shopping around!!

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Oct 16, 2013 11:02:19   #
raferrelljr Loc: CHARLOTTE, NC
 
FrumCA wrote:
I heard a woman talking the other day about how her current out if pocket $$ of $2500 is going to be $12,000 if she keeps her same insurance company. Her company told her that the increase is needed to cover the costs of Obamacare. Needless to say she is shopping around!!


That is exactly the plan.......... a single payer system totally contolled by the government. Revolution is at hand, I hope.

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Oct 16, 2013 11:07:06   #
Cragzop Loc: NYC
 
So what do you think will happen when the 47% of the takers in this country who are now being subsidized by the working class givers becomes 55% or worse. At some point the wealth sharing bubble has to burst. My husband and I worked long hours in our business to live fairly comfortably. We know people who have been on welfare for years and have as much as we do. I have no problem helping those who cannot work. But I do have a problem sharing my hard earned income with those who will not work. There is a huge difference.[/quote]



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Oct 16, 2013 11:07:20   #
pipesgt Loc: Central Florida
 
rook2c4 wrote:
It's what nearly every other advanced nation has in place. Even Italy, one of the politically most conservative nations in Europe has a similar system. And spreading the wealth is a good thing, unless you happen to be an overpaid corporate CEO or banker. More money in the pockets (and thereby greater spending power) of the poor and middle class is what boosts the economy, not less. The more spending, the more is produced, and thereby more jobs, and jobs with better pay. The only ones drinking the koolaide are the ones buying into the myth of trickle down economics and how wealth needs to be further concentrated among the already wealthy.
It's what nearly every other advanced nation has i... (show quote)


Nearly everyone of those European socialist countrys, that have socialized medicine, are bankrupt. There is just not enough money in the U.S. treasury to provide medical care to every person living in the USA.

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