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Sep 14, 2013 11:04:05   #
kgravett Loc: Atlanta, Ga.
 
The filter size on the FZ70 is 55mm. l did a shootout between the Canon SX50, Panasonic FZ200 and FZ70 cameras. The pictures can be seen here.

http://kgravett.smugmug.com/Other/SX50-vs-FZ70-vs-FZ200

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Sep 14, 2013 11:34:45   #
kgravett Loc: Atlanta, Ga.
 
There are several differences between the Panasonic FZ70 and the Canon SX50. The FZ70 has a range of 20mm to 1200mm. The SX50 has a range of 24mm to 1200mm. The FZ70 has a little faster lens at f/2.8 to f/5.9, where the SX50 is f/3.4 to f/6.5.

The Canon has an articulating lens and the Pany does not. The Canon has a remote shutter jack and the Pany does not. The pictures look pretty close as far as quality. They are both using the same sensor. The Canon has high speed video and progressive video and the Pany does not. It has interpolated video in HD.

The Pany has a panorama mode the the Canon has a panoramic stitch mode. The Pany will go for up to 60 seconds in the Starry Sky Mode and the max limit on the Canon is 15 seconds. The Pany shows the amount of zoom all the time in the X amount, and the Canon does not. It shows a symbol.

The Canon will go for 13 frames in the High Speed Mode for 1 second and the Pany will go for 9 fps for 3 frames. The Pany will go to 2 or 5 fps in shutter speed with and without auto focus and the Canon will go 2 fps with no AF and .8 fps with AF.
The Pany will go at 9 fps for one second in the High Speed Mode.

The Pany has an HDR mode that works pretty well and the Canon does not. The Pany has a 3D Mode and the Canon does not.

The Pany does a little better in low light because the lens is a little faster. For some reason the Canon will not go more than 1/8 second at ISO 1600 in the Auto Mode. The Pany will go to 8 seconds in that mode, and will switch to Hand Held Night Mode if not enough light.

In Aperture Priority the Canon will not go above 1 second in shutter speed in low light. If 1 second is not enough, the shot will come out too dark, if the ISO is set low. In Shutter Priority the camera will set the ISO to 80 at any shutter speed at or over 1 second, no matter where you have the ISO set. The Pany does not have that problem. At lower light levels the ISO is set completely by the operator. This is a big deal if you shoot a lot of low light shots.

My opinion. Both cameras have their strengths and weaknesses. Both take great pictures and I could see no difference at mid zoom. At the higher zoom levels I could see an edge going to Canon in image sharpness. I normally don't use the lens in any other position other than normal and the fact that the Pany does not have an articulated lens does not bother me. I don't like the fact that the Pany will not take a shutter release cable. That sucks!

The Menu system is better in my opinion on the Pany than on the Canon. The Pany does have 60X zoom and the 20mm shots at wide angle could really make a difference in tight areas. The difference between the 24mm wide angle of the Canon and the 20mm of the Panasonic is substantial.

The Pany has a 55mm thread on the lens and the Canon does not. You have to buy an adapter to use filters on the Canon. The Pany does not come with a lens hood and one is not available for it. If you buy a 55mm screw in lens hood, vignetting is going to occur at wide open.

The Pany is really subject to severe lens flare in shooting towards the sun. I don't know if the Canon has this problem or not.

I am keeping one of these cameras and have not decided yet which one to keep. I am leaning towards the Canon because of the articulated lens and the shutter cable jack, but more testing is coming.

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Sep 14, 2013 12:35:32   #
VHD-Tex Loc: Mc Allen Tx.
 
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kgravett wrote:
There are several differences between the Panasonic FZ70 and the Canon SX50. The FZ70 has a range of 20mm to 1200mm. The SX50 has a range of 24mm to 1200mm. The FZ70 has a little faster lens at f/2.8 to f/5.9, where the SX50 is f/3.4 to f/6.5.

The Canon has an articulating lens and the Pany does not. The Canon has a remote shutter jack and the Pany does not. The pictures look pretty close as far as quality. They are both using the same sensor. The Canon has high speed video and progressive video and the Pany does not. It has interpolated video in HD.

The Pany has a panorama mode the the Canon has a panoramic stitch mode. The Pany will go for up to 60 seconds in the Starry Sky Mode and the max limit on the Canon is 15 seconds. The Pany shows the amount of zoom all the time in the X amount, and the Canon does not. It shows a symbol.

The Canon will go for 13 frames in the High Speed Mode for 1 second and the Pany will go for 9 fps for 3 frames. The Pany will go to 2 or 5 fps in shutter speed with and without auto focus and the Canon will go 2 fps with no AF and .8 fps with AF.
The Pany will go at 9 fps for one second in the High Speed Mode.

The Pany has an HDR mode that works pretty well and the Canon does not. The Pany has a 3D Mode and the Canon does not.

The Pany does a little better in low light because the lens is a little faster. For some reason the Canon will not go more than 1/8 second at ISO 1600 in the Auto Mode. The Pany will go to 8 seconds in that mode, and will switch to Hand Held Night Mode if not enough light.

In Aperture Priority the Canon will not go above 1 second in shutter speed in low light. If 1 second is not enough, the shot will come out too dark, if the ISO is set low. In Shutter Priority the camera will set the ISO to 80 at any shutter speed at or over 1 second, no matter where you have the ISO set. The Pany does not have that problem. At lower light levels the ISO is set completely by the operator. This is a big deal if you shoot a lot of low light shots.

My opinion. Both cameras have their strengths and weaknesses. Both take great pictures and I could see no difference at mid zoom. At the higher zoom levels I could see an edge going to Canon in image sharpness. I normally don't use the lens in any other position other than normal and the fact that the Pany does not have an articulated lens does not bother me. I don't like the fact that the Pany will not take a shutter release cable. That sucks!

The Menu system is better in my opinion on the Pany than on the Canon. The Pany does have 60X zoom and the 20mm shots at wide angle could really make a difference in tight areas. The difference between the 24mm wide angle of the Canon and the 20mm of the Panasonic is substantial.

The Pany has a 55mm thread on the lens and the Canon does not. You have to buy an adapter to use filters on the Canon. The Pany does not come with a lens hood and one is not available for it. If you buy a 55mm screw in lens hood, vignetting is going to occur at wide open.

The Pany is really subject to severe lens flare in shooting towards the sun. I don't know if the Canon has this problem or not.

I am keeping one of these cameras and have not decided yet which one to keep. I am leaning towards the Canon because of the articulated lens and the shutter cable jack, but more testing is coming.
There are several differences between the Panasoni... (show quote)


Kgravett--- Wow --You did the home work and thanks so much for the info. I am leaning toward the SX50 at this time but might wait for the 60 coming --as some said ---this fall. The UPS truck has not visited my house for a long long time. I don't even remember what color it is.

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Sep 14, 2013 12:44:21   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
kgravett wrote:
There are several differences between the Panasonic FZ70 and the Canon SX50. The FZ70 has a range of 20mm to 1200mm. The SX50 has a range of 24mm to 1200mm. The FZ70 has a little faster lens at f/2.8 to f/5.9, where the SX50 is f/3.4 to f/6.5.

The Canon has an articulating lens and the Pany does not. The Canon has a remote shutter jack and the Pany does not. The pictures look pretty close as far as quality. They are both using the same sensor. The Canon has high speed video and progressive video and the Pany does not. It has interpolated video in HD.

The Pany has a panorama mode the the Canon has a panoramic stitch mode. The Pany will go for up to 60 seconds in the Starry Sky Mode and the max limit on the Canon is 15 seconds. The Pany shows the amount of zoom all the time in the X amount, and the Canon does not. It shows a symbol.

The Canon will go for 13 frames in the High Speed Mode for 1 second and the Pany will go for 9 fps for 3 frames. The Pany will go to 2 or 5 fps in shutter speed with and without auto focus and the Canon will go 2 fps with no AF and .8 fps with AF.
The Pany will go at 9 fps for one second in the High Speed Mode.

The Pany has an HDR mode that works pretty well and the Canon does not. The Pany has a 3D Mode and the Canon does not.

The Pany does a little better in low light because the lens is a little faster. For some reason the Canon will not go more than 1/8 second at ISO 1600 in the Auto Mode. The Pany will go to 8 seconds in that mode, and will switch to Hand Held Night Mode if not enough light.

In Aperture Priority the Canon will not go above 1 second in shutter speed in low light. If 1 second is not enough, the shot will come out too dark, if the ISO is set low. In Shutter Priority the camera will set the ISO to 80 at any shutter speed at or over 1 second, no matter where you have the ISO set. The Pany does not have that problem. At lower light levels the ISO is set completely by the operator. This is a big deal if you shoot a lot of low light shots.

My opinion. Both cameras have their strengths and weaknesses. Both take great pictures and I could see no difference at mid zoom. At the higher zoom levels I could see an edge going to Canon in image sharpness. I normally don't use the lens in any other position other than normal and the fact that the Pany does not have an articulated lens does not bother me. I don't like the fact that the Pany will not take a shutter release cable. That sucks!

The Menu system is better in my opinion on the Pany than on the Canon. The Pany does have 60X zoom and the 20mm shots at wide angle could really make a difference in tight areas. The difference between the 24mm wide angle of the Canon and the 20mm of the Panasonic is substantial.

The Pany has a 55mm thread on the lens and the Canon does not. You have to buy an adapter to use filters on the Canon. The Pany does not come with a lens hood and one is not available for it. If you buy a 55mm screw in lens hood, vignetting is going to occur at wide open.

The Pany is really subject to severe lens flare in shooting towards the sun. I don't know if the Canon has this problem or not.

I am keeping one of these cameras and have not decided yet which one to keep. I am leaning towards the Canon because of the articulated lens and the shutter cable jack, but more testing is coming.
There are several differences between the Panasoni... (show quote)


Thanks for the very good review of the two cameras. I would add a little point. The 60x zoom of the Pany is based on having a wider lens (20mm) than the Canon at the lower end, but at the far end both have the same 1200mm. That is, at the zoom end both get equally close to the distant subject. The 60x zoom might mislead some people into thinking that the are getting more telephoto capability with the Pany. On the other hand, they do get a wider capture capability for landscapes (20mm for the Pany vs 24mm for the Canon).

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Sep 14, 2013 15:02:05   #
SirLan Loc: London UK
 
Why does dpreview give the so called great Canon SX50HS a rating of 72 and the Panasonic FZ200 a rating of 80? thats a big difference. I think there is a group of you who love your SX50's and rate it better then it is. No offense meant but it's not rated that high on dpreview. They have not done a full review on the Pani FZ70 yet so it will be interesting to see how they rate that. Just food for thought :)

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Sep 14, 2013 15:18:29   #
sbesaw Loc: Boston
 
SirLan wrote:
Why does dpreview give the so called great Canon SX50HS a rating of 72 and the Panasonic FZ200 a rating of 80? thats a big difference. I think there is a group of you who love your SX50's and rate it better then it is. No offense meant but it's not rated that high on dpreview. They have not done a full review on the Pani FZ70 yet so it will be interesting to see how they rate that. Just food for thought :)


Love is Blind so sayeth the bards

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Sep 14, 2013 16:13:56   #
ggttc Loc: TN
 
SirLan wrote:
Why does dpreview give the so called great Canon SX50HS a rating of 72 and the Panasonic FZ200 a rating of 80? thats a big difference. I think there is a group of you who love your SX50's and rate it better then it is. No offense meant but it's not rated that high on dpreview. They have not done a full review on the Pani FZ70 yet so it will be interesting to see how they rate that. Just food for thought :)


And Snapsort ave the sx50 a rating of 100 and the fz70 a rating of 61...

You can go on for days like this...read reviews until blood comes out of your ears...

Make a list of the features you want...the camera that has the most wins

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Sep 14, 2013 16:42:46   #
SirLan Loc: London UK
 
Hi ggttc
Snapsort can't be very good then if they give a perfect score of 100 to any camera. That allows for nothing to be better then it...lol! Now that is a poor represention of reality. I would not read there ratings and take them seriously. Just my opinion:)

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Sep 14, 2013 17:13:36   #
sbesaw Loc: Boston
 
SirLan wrote:
Hi ggttc
Snapsort can't be very good then if they give a perfect score of 100 to any camera. That allows for nothing to be better then it...lol! Now that is a poor represention of reality. I would not read there ratings and take them seriously. Just my opinion:)


Interesting, DP review gave SX50 72% and FZ200 80%
Snapsort also has glaring inaccuracies in fps, ISO for example. Of course FZ 200 is a more expensive camera.

Best camera should be the one you have.....As long as you are happy with your camera it's the best for you. May not be the best for me. Don't own or never owned either. Have shot with both and they both produce excellent images.

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Sep 14, 2013 17:14:29   #
ggttc Loc: TN
 
SirLan wrote:
Hi ggttc
Snapsort can't be very good then if they give a perfect score of 100 to any camera. That allows for nothing to be better then it...lol! Now that is a poor represention of reality. I would not read there ratings and take them seriously. Just my opinion:)


My point was, after reading tons of reviews on different superzooms...and becoming more confused..the deciding factor boiled down to what I wanted in a camera.

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Sep 14, 2013 17:24:52   #
bunuweld Loc: Arizona
 
SirLan wrote:
Why does dpreview give the so called great Canon SX50HS a rating of 72 and the Panasonic FZ200 a rating of 80? thats a big difference. I think there is a group of you who love your SX50's and rate it better then it is. No offense meant but it's not rated that high on dpreview. They have not done a full review on the Pani FZ70 yet so it will be interesting to see how they rate that. Just food for thought :)


I don't know how DPreview weighs the different parameters, but my bet is that the additional short focal length and aperture rate high. I, like many other SX50 buyers, was not very concerned with that aspect, My other camera and lens cover that aspect very well and my interest in wide-angle is low. My decision for SX50 was more based on the tremendous zoom and excellent image stabilizer. People with more interest in covering *all* focal lengths may find the Panasonic more attractive. Fortunately there has not been a Nikon-vs-Canon style war between SX50ers and Panasonicists. It looks like the larger cameras induce more aggressive battles :)

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Sep 14, 2013 20:54:28   #
Wahawk Loc: NE IA
 
kgravett wrote:
The Pany has an HDR mode that works pretty well and the Canon does not.


Sorry, the Canon SX50 DOES have an HDR mode that does very nicely!

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Sep 14, 2013 21:54:43   #
kgravett Loc: Atlanta, Ga.
 
Wahawk, sorry, I forgot about that. It does have a HDR mode. I missed that one.

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Sep 15, 2013 14:59:01   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
SirLan wrote:
Hi ggttc
Snapsort can't be very good then if they give a perfect score of 100 to any camera. That allows for nothing to be better then it...lol! Now that is a poor represention of reality. I would not read there ratings and take them seriously. Just my opinion:)

I have a Nikon bridge and a Panasonic bridge and compared them on Snapsort for laughs. The comparison revealed total incompetency or total bias. Which ever it was, I removed them from my list of camera sites.

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Nov 30, 2015 15:20:08   #
seagull5
 
BigDaddy wrote:
I have a Nikon bridge and a Panasonic bridge and compared them on Snapsort for laughs. The comparison revealed total incompetency or total bias. Which ever it was, I removed them from my list of camera sites.


Ditto.....Sony vs Panny....

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