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Jul 15, 2013 20:35:40   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
leloblu wrote:
I'd like to be anything than have a Mongol face like you. I didn't know this forum is full of old tea party bigot racists
Thank you.



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Jul 15, 2013 20:41:37   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Que Pendejo!
Si!
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Jul 15, 2013 20:47:48   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
pbearperry wrote:
Sounds like a F16 clone.
Funny. I noticed the similarity. Only I think F16 has an IQ of over 100.

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Jul 15, 2013 20:51:57   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
So not having been in the court, not having listened to all the evidence and the arguments, you are going to armchair quarterback and disrespect this jury?

What makes you such a legal authority? Did the prosecution prove their case? No matter what you may think, no matter how much you assume or opine on this case, the fact still remains that our laws demand that the prosecution prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt.

Can you say that happened in this case?



A man with no authority, blamed a young man of some crime.

Against the wishes of the police department, and with vivid racial epithets which proved animus, he followed and harassed an innocent party.

In the face of this young man, he got out of his car, which no prudent individual would do, leading to a fight between two men of roughly equal age and size.

That fight was on grass, a benign arena, several feet from concrete.

The assumption is that no serious injury was likely, and the fight was like hundreds of others that take place in every city, and every night.

During that fight, Zimmerman wore a pistol in an inside-pants-holster, behind his back, covered by his shirt-tail and jacket.

[Probably in a panic], Zimmerman pulled out his pistol, without sufficient reason, and which no prudent person would do, and killed his opponent.

There was animus shown, and irresponsibility using a gun, leading to the murder of an innocent boy, demanding a verdict of second degree murder.


"I am angry that George Zimmerman could chase a teenager through his neighborhood, ignore a dispatcher’s pleas, make racially charged statements, provoke a confrontation with a young man armed only with Skittles, and pull the trigger that ended that teenager’s life, only to walk away without as much as a misdemeanor attached to his name. But I also know that the laws of Florida favored the defense, that the prosecution overreached in its efforts to convict Zimmerman on a second-degree murder charge, and that we will never know which man was screaming for help in the moments that George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin. I also know that it is a fool’s errand to second-guess the conclusions of a jury that sat through countless hours of testimony and evidence before reaching a verdict."

"But that doesn’t mean I can’t draw my own personal conclusions, like my belief that George Zimmerman is a racist idiot who chased an unarmed teenager through a neighborhood for little reason more than he was a black man wearing a hoodie. I can also conclude that many conservative commentators were offensive in their reflexive defense of Zimmerman, as well as their efforts to attack the integrity of a dead black teenager. I am also not sure how it is that the right-wing’s professional chattering classes usually find themselves on the other side of African-Americans in racially sensitive cases."

Two above quotes from conservative Joe Scarborough.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/george-zimmerman-trial-expands-deep-divide-94125.html#ixzz2ZAKobfvP

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Jul 15, 2013 21:03:20   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Wabbit wrote:
By a "White Ass Cracker" ..... and Trayvon also referred to Zimmerman as a "N" says Rachel Jeantel .....
White Ass Cracker.

White Ass
White Ass...

Cracker
Cracker...

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Jul 15, 2013 21:04:50   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
magicray wrote:
White Ass Cracker.


Funny joke about a boy, who is dead.

Ha, ha, ha.

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Jul 15, 2013 21:12:12   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Read about your sweet, innocent TM here...NOT !!
http://patdollard.com/2013/06/trayvon-martins-involvement-in-local-burglaries-covered-up-by-media-school-police/
Twardlow wrote:
A man with no authority, blamed a young man of some crime.

Against the wishes of the police department, and with vivid racial epithets which proved animus, he followed and harassed an innocent party.

In the face of this young man, he got out of his car, which no prudent individual would do, leading to a fight between two men of roughly equal age and size.

That fight was on grass, a benign arena, several feet from concrete.

The assumption is that no serious injury was likely, and the fight was like hundreds of others that take place in every city, and every night.

During that fight, Zimmerman wore a pistol in an inside-pants-holster, behind his back, covered by his shirt-tail and jacket.

[Probably in a panic], Zimmerman pulled out his pistol, without sufficient reason, and which no prudent person would do, and killed his opponent.

There was animus shown, and irresponsibility using a gun, leading to the murder of an innocent boy, demanding a verdict of second degree murder.


"I am angry that George Zimmerman could chase a teenager through his neighborhood, ignore a dispatcher’s pleas, make racially charged statements, provoke a confrontation with a young man armed only with Skittles, and pull the trigger that ended that teenager’s life, only to walk away without as much as a misdemeanor attached to his name. But I also know that the laws of Florida favored the defense, that the prosecution overreached in its efforts to convict Zimmerman on a second-degree murder charge, and that we will never know which man was screaming for help in the moments that George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin. I also know that it is a fool’s errand to second-guess the conclusions of a jury that sat through countless hours of testimony and evidence before reaching a verdict."

"But that doesn’t mean I can’t draw my own personal conclusions, like my belief that George Zimmerman is a racist idiot who chased an unarmed teenager through a neighborhood for little reason more than he was a black man wearing a hoodie. I can also conclude that many conservative commentators were offensive in their reflexive defense of Zimmerman, as well as their efforts to attack the integrity of a dead black teenager. I am also not sure how it is that the right-wing’s professional chattering classes usually find themselves on the other side of African-Americans in racially sensitive cases."

Two above quotes from conservative Joe Scarborough.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/george-zimmerman-trial-expands-deep-divide-94125.html#ixzz2ZAKobfvP
A man with no authority, blamed a young man of som... (show quote)

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Jul 15, 2013 21:15:52   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
Annie_Girl wrote:
argh George Zimmerman was not found "innocent" he was found "Not Guilty" two totally different things.

and no one got what they "deserved" not George Zimmerman who's life is forever changed or Trayvon Martin who ended up dead. The whole case is sad.


Well Doc ..... there's two choices, either or ..... Guilty or Not Guilty ..... there is no innocent option .....

..... The American way ..... innocent until proven guilty .....

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Jul 15, 2013 21:19:00   #
pbearperry Loc: Massachusetts
 
magicray wrote:
Funny. I noticed the similarity. Only I think F16 has an IQ of over 100.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


You are much too kind Sir.lol

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Jul 15, 2013 21:42:55   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Twardlow wrote:
A man with no authority, blamed a young man of some crime.

Against the wishes of the police department, and with vivid racial epithets which proved animus, he followed and harassed an innocent party.

In the face of this young man, he got out of his car, which no prudent individual would do, leading to a fight between two men of roughly equal age and size.

That fight was on grass, a benign arena, several feet from concrete.

The assumption is that no serious injury was likely, and the fight was like hundreds of others that take place in every city, and every night.

During that fight, Zimmerman wore a pistol in an inside-pants-holster, behind his back, covered by his shirt-tail and jacket.

(Probably in a panic), Zimmerman pulled out his pistol, without sufficient reason, and which no prudent person would do, and killed his opponent.

There was animus shown, and irresponsibility using a gun, leading to the murder of an innocent boy, demanding a verdict of second degree murder.


"I am angry that George Zimmerman could chase a teenager through his neighborhood, ignore a dispatcher’s pleas, make racially charged statements, provoke a confrontation with a young man armed only with Skittles, and pull the trigger that ended that teenager’s life, only to walk away without as much as a misdemeanor attached to his name. But I also know that the laws of Florida favored the defense, that the prosecution overreached in its efforts to convict Zimmerman on a second-degree murder charge, and that we will never know which man was screaming for help in the moments that George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin. I also know that it is a fool’s errand to second-guess the conclusions of a jury that sat through countless hours of testimony and evidence before reaching a verdict."

"But that doesn’t mean I can’t draw my own personal conclusions, like my belief that George Zimmerman is a racist idiot who chased an unarmed teenager through a neighborhood for little reason more than he was a black man wearing a hoodie. I can also conclude that many conservative commentators were offensive in their reflexive defense of Zimmerman, as well as their efforts to attack the integrity of a dead black teenager. I am also not sure how it is that the right-wing’s professional chattering classes usually find themselves on the other side of African-Americans in racially sensitive cases."

Two above quotes from conservative Joe Scarborough.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/george-zimmerman-trial-expands-deep-divide-94125.html#ixzz2ZAKobfvP
A man with no authority, blamed a young man of som... (show quote)


Half of what you have just said is completely made up and contrary to witness statements, sorry but that is a fact. I also have another question for you... What "vivid racial epithets" exactly did Zimmerman use? As far as I have been able to disconcert from both the 911 calls and the portions of the trial that I saw the defense never got any such language into evidence other than the statement of a witness who she herself admitted to lying during her deposition.

I don't give a flip about what Joe Scarborough has to say, he is a self proclaimed conservative, but really that ship sailed a long time ago, he is a confused man sitting every morning surrounded by liberals trying to fit in to the cliche and the New York lifestyle, anyone who can spend that much time around Mika can't be a conservative, there is just not enough money in the world to make a conservative go through that kind of torture.

You say it is the laws of Florida that have made it easier for the defense, I am sorry, it has nothing to do with the laws of the state of Florida, and everything to do with the burden of proof. Nobody is saying that the Martin family has received justice, no one will really know what happened that day, what we do know is that Trayvon Martin was kicking the crap out of George Zimmerman and really not much more than that. It was completely reasonable for Zimmerman to keep an eye on Martin considering the recent crime history of the complex and Martins seeming as if he did not belong, Zimmerman obviously over did it and got too close which gave Martin reason himself to become alarmed, but Zimmerman did not disobey a lawful police order so again your argument is emotional but has nothing to do with the law. We don't know who struck who first, nor do we know what was going through Zimmerman's mind as his head was being pounded into the concrete. I don't know if you have ever bounced your head on concrete but I have and you have no ideal as to the severity of the damage for several moments, as those moments are needed for the shock of the impact to clear... Have you ever wrestled and had someone on top of you pinning you down? How do you generally break such a hold? By twisting your body and moving both yours and your opponents center of gravity from side to side, it is easily conceivable that Martin could have seen or felt that gun during the struggle... There are just too many questions and the left is making up facts that just don't play in the court of law....

Bottom line is that the state failed to prove its case.

There are other crimes and statistics that should be much more alarming to the country and most specifically to the black community that will only get worse as this depressed economy continues to struggle, but as long as we keep talking about Zimmerman it is much easier then then you guys won't have to talk about the 40% unemployment among black youth, you won't have to talk about the fact that 9 out of 10 blacks murdered are murdered by blacks, that percapita blacks murder 7X more than whites do, that at less than 13% of our country's population, blacks, are responsible for more than half of our murder country's murders..... Yet what are all these governors and mayors doing about this? No.. let's just talk about Zimmerman, it is a much easier subject to demagogue. Why aren't the liberals raising that discussion..... Opps! I guess they would have to take a good hard look at their own failed policies... Never mind.

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Jul 15, 2013 21:53:30   #
leloblu
 


I'm sure you know that there is an evil art to jury selection. Most of the time it's meant to be obviously unjust . If GZ was black and there was a White child dead on the pavement, I don't think there would have ever been an arrest. The gunman would have been shot dead on the spot by the police.

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Jul 15, 2013 21:57:53   #
Cragzop Loc: NYC
 
leloblu wrote:
Don't waist your time talking to old white racist and bigot guys . They think they are better than everyone else but sooner than later they all be gone


We all may be gone, but who's gonna pay for your welfare check?

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Jul 15, 2013 22:00:10   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Half of what you have just said is completely made up and contrary to witness statements, sorry but that is a fact. I also have another question for you... What "vivid racial epithets" exactly did Zimmerman use? As far as I have been able to disconcert from both the 911 calls and the portions of the trial that I saw the defense never got any such language into evidence other than the statement of a witness who she herself admitted to lying during her deposition.

I don't give a flip about what Joe Scarborough has to say, he is a self proclaimed conservative, but really that ship sailed a long time ago, he is a confused man sitting every morning surrounded by liberals trying to fit in to the cliche and the New York lifestyle, anyone who can spend that much time around Mika can't be a conservative, there is just not enough money in the world to make a conservative go through that kind of torture.

You say it is the laws of Florida that have made it easier for the defense, I am sorry, it has nothing to do with the laws of the state of Florida, and everything to do with the burden of proof. Nobody is saying that the Martin family has received justice, no one will really know what happened that day, what we do know is that Trayvon Martin was kicking the crap out of George Zimmerman and really not much more than that. It was completely reasonable for Zimmerman to keep an eye on Martin considering the recent crime history of the complex and Martins seeming as if he did not belong, Zimmerman obviously over did it and got too close which gave Martin reason himself to become alarmed, but Zimmerman did not disobey a lawful police order so again your argument is emotional but has nothing to do with the law. We don't know who struck who first, nor do we know what was going through Zimmerman's mind as his head was being pounded into the concrete. I don't know if you have ever bounced your head on concrete but I have and you have no ideal as to the severity of the damage for several moments, as those moments are needed for the shock of the impact to clear... Have you ever wrestled and had someone on top of you pinning you down? How do you generally break such a hold? By twisting your body and moving both yours and your opponents center of gravity from side to side, it is easily conceivable that Martin could have seen or felt that gun during the struggle... There are just too many questions and the left is making up facts that just don't play in the court of law....

Bottom line is that the state failed to prove its case.

There are other crimes and statistics that should be much more alarming to the country and most specifically to the black community that will only get worse as this depressed economy continues to struggle, but as long as we keep talking about Zimmerman it is much easier then then you guys won't have to talk about the 40% unemployment among black youth, you won't have to talk about the fact that 9 out of 10 blacks murdered are murdered by blacks, that percapita blacks murder 7X more than whites do, that at less than 13% of our countries population blacks are responsible for more than half of our murder rate..... Yet what are all these governors and mayors doing about this? No.. let's just talk about Zimmerman, it is a much easier subject to demagogue. Why aren't the liberals raising that discussion..... Opps! I guess they would have to take a good hard look at their own failed policies... Never mind.
Half of what you have just said is completely made... (show quote)


Bravo Doc ..... excellent .....

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Jul 15, 2013 22:01:47   #
Wabbit Loc: Arizona Desert
 
leloblu wrote:
I'm sure you know that there is an evil art to jury selection. Most of the time it's meant to be obviously unjust . If GZ was black and there was a White child dead on the pavement, I don't think there would have ever been an arrest. The gunman would have been shot dead on the spot by the police.


Ah poppycock .....

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Jul 15, 2013 22:30:04   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Half of what you have just said is completely made up and contrary to witness statements, sorry but that is a fact. I also have another question for you... What "vivid racial epithets" exactly did Zimmerman use? As far as I have been able to disconcert from both the 911 calls and the portions of the trial that I saw the defense never got any such language into evidence other than the statement of a witness who she herself admitted to lying during her deposition.

I don't give a flip about what Joe Scarborough has to say, he is a self proclaimed conservative, but really that ship sailed a long time ago, he is a confused man sitting every morning surrounded by liberals trying to fit in to the cliche and the New York lifestyle, anyone who can spend that much time around Mika can't be a conservative, there is just not enough money in the world to make a conservative go through that kind of torture.

You say it is the laws of Florida that have made it easier for the defense, I am sorry, it has nothing to do with the laws of the state of Florida, and everything to do with the burden of proof. Nobody is saying that the Martin family has received justice, no one will really know what happened that day, what we do know is that Trayvon Martin was kicking the crap out of George Zimmerman and really not much more than that. It was completely reasonable for Zimmerman to keep an eye on Martin considering the recent crime history of the complex and Martins seeming as if he did not belong, Zimmerman obviously over did it and got too close which gave Martin reason himself to become alarmed, but Zimmerman did not disobey a lawful police order so again your argument is emotional but has nothing to do with the law. We don't know who struck who first, nor do we know what was going through Zimmerman's mind as his head was being pounded into the concrete. I don't know if you have ever bounced your head on concrete but I have and you have no ideal as to the severity of the damage for several moments, as those moments are needed for the shock of the impact to clear... Have you ever wrestled and had someone on top of you pinning you down? How do you generally break such a hold? By twisting your body and moving both yours and your opponents center of gravity from side to side, it is easily conceivable that Martin could have seen or felt that gun during the struggle... There are just too many questions and the left is making up facts that just don't play in the court of law....

Bottom line is that the state failed to prove its case.

There are other crimes and statistics that should be much more alarming to the country and most specifically to the black community that will only get worse as this depressed economy continues to struggle, but as long as we keep talking about Zimmerman it is much easier then then you guys won't have to talk about the 40% unemployment among black youth, you won't have to talk about the fact that 9 out of 10 blacks murdered are murdered by blacks, that percapita blacks murder 7X more than whites do, that at less than 13% of our country's population, blacks, are responsible for more than half of our murder country's murders..... Yet what are all these governors and mayors doing about this? No.. let's just talk about Zimmerman, it is a much easier subject to demagogue. Why aren't the liberals raising that discussion..... Opps! I guess they would have to take a good hard look at their own failed policies... Never mind.
Half of what you have just said is completely made... (show quote)



You make thing up and misunderstand.

I stand behind my story.

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