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Apr 2, 2013 16:28:54   #
Sneidley Loc: Goodyear, AZ
 
Other than focal length, what is the difference in these two lens?
55-300 F/4.5-5.6 G VR DX AF-S
70-300 F/4.5-5.6 G VR AF-S
Cameta Camera has re-furb at some good prices. (I think)

One of these would be used on a 5100.

Thanks
I can never get all the letters straight.

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Apr 2, 2013 16:30:51   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
Ones a FF lens and the other a DX lens.

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Apr 2, 2013 16:32:56   #
Andy-j Loc: Stoke-on-Trent UK
 
I spent ages comparing images taken with these 2 and decided the 70-300 was slightly better, also it can be used on FF camera.

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Apr 2, 2013 16:38:06   #
marquis1955 Loc: Lometa, TX
 
This may sound dumb but I don't know the difference between FF and DX can someone please tell me ?

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Apr 2, 2013 16:43:17   #
Andy-j Loc: Stoke-on-Trent UK
 
marquis1955 wrote:
This may sound dumb but I don't know the difference between FF and DX can someone please tell me ?


FF Full Frame same as 35mm on SLR, DX is cropped or smaller

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Apr 2, 2013 16:44:31   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
marquis1955 wrote:
This may sound dumb but I don't know the difference between FF and DX can someone please tell me ?

A DX camera has a smaller sensor than an FX, and the price is generally lower. The D7000 and D5200 are DX. The D600, D800, and D4 are FX. FX bodies are generally larger, heavier, and more expensive.

Because they are more expensive, they take better pictures. :D (only kidding)

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Apr 2, 2013 16:45:36   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
marguis a FF camera has a sensor the same size as a 35mm film camera. A DX camera has a much smaller sensor.

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Apr 2, 2013 16:48:03   #
marquis1955 Loc: Lometa, TX
 
jerryc41 wrote:
A DX camera has a smaller sensor than an FX, and the price is generally lower. The D7000 and D5200 are DX. The D600, D800, and D4 are FX. FX bodies are generally larger, heavier, and more expensive.

Because they are more expensive, they take better pictures. :D (only kidding)


Thank You !

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Apr 2, 2013 16:55:27   #
Nikon_DonB Loc: Chicago
 
The 55-300mmVR would work great on the D5100. It is designed for DX camera's. I had one with my D3100 and it worked great. For the price it is quite clear. The 70-300mmVR is designed for full frame cameras, although it will work just fine on the DX cameras. It is more expensive but is better quality than the 55-300. If you plan on upgrading to a FF camera eventually I'd get the 70-300mm. If you plan on staying with DX's, you may be better suited with the 55-300, plus it picks up right where the kit lens(18-55mm)leaves off. The 55-300mm is also lighter in weight(and price)than the 70-300 and seems better suited to the DX cameras.

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Apr 2, 2013 17:05:04   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Sneidley wrote:
Other than focal length, what is the difference in these two lens?
55-300 F/4.5-5.6 G VR DX AF-S
70-300 F/4.5-5.6 G VR AF-S
Cameta Camera has re-furb at some good prices. (I think)

One of these would be used on a 5100.

Thanks
I can never get all the letters straight.

Lots of references here.

http://www.google.com/search?q=nikon+55-300mm+vs+nikon+70-300mm+lens&rlz=

Look here and see a direct image-to-image comparison. The little arrow above the graphic toggles back and forth between the lenses you’re comparing.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=735&Camera=614&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=622&CameraComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0

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Apr 2, 2013 17:41:05   #
davids999 Loc: Edinburgh, UK
 
Hi Sneidley

I am fairly new to this but I have used both lenses recently. I found the following:

55-300 VR: Pros - reasonably light, good optics.

Cons - if you are using Auto Focus and can’t quite get it right and need to focus manually you must locate the switch as there is no override. As I have gained experience I found this frustrating, particularly as the autofocus is not fast and the process results in you losing the shot. Also the lens "creeps" if you walk around with it. Probably not a huge problem but it’s annoying and I suspect it will further loosen the lens over time.

70-300 VR: Pros – faster autofocus, has instant manual override, virtually no lens creep, better build quality.

Cons – it is a bit heavier.

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Apr 2, 2013 17:53:02   #
Sneidley Loc: Goodyear, AZ
 
Ok I think I've got it. I like the idea of a slightly heavier lens, and the 15mm I wouldn't cover from 55 to 70 won't bother me. So it's the 70-300 it is.
And $339 shipped doesn't look too bad either.

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Apr 2, 2013 18:08:28   #
Nightski
 
marquis1955 wrote:
This may sound dumb but I don't know the difference between FF and DX can someone please tell me ?


Thank-you for asking that question! :)

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Apr 2, 2013 18:24:55   #
craggycrossers Loc: Robin Hood Country, UK
 
Nightski wrote:
Thank-you for asking that question! :)


A little info that might help you unravel the mysteries of Nikon cameras and lenses :-

Nikon Cameras and Nikkor Lenses.
This information is important to understand in terms of future camera/lens planning.
Nikon camera bodies are either termed “Full Frame” (FX) or “APS-C” (DX), the difference being the size of the sensor. Full frame cameras tend to be for professionals or “extreme enthusiasts”.

Current FX cameras include the D4, D3, the D700 and the newly-introduced in 2012 D800 and D600.

Current DX cameras are the D3000 and D5000 series, the D7000, D7100 and the older D80, D90 and the “semi-pro” D200, D300 and D300s.

Nikon lenses are designated either FX or DX.

A DX camera has an APS -C smaller sensor and lenses with a DX in the title were built specifically for this sensor. The DX designated lenses are made smaller and lighter specifically for use on DX bodies in accordance with the reduced needs of the crop sensor. Nikon allows DX lenses to be used on all their FX bodies, but with reduced sensor size results, or else with extreme vignetting.

FX lenses will work on all DX bodies and give the advantage of only needing the centre portion (sweet spot) of the glass in those lenses, typically giving even better net results than they do on FX bodies. FX lenses are also a much better investment as they will not depreciate in value nearly as much as DX lenses, primarily due to the increasing number of users for these lenses. There appears to be an increasing number of DX users moving up to FX bodies. But you can use FX lenses with a DX camera.
All the forum pundits advise that if you are ever thinking of “going FX” then you should buy FX lenses from the start. So as you start buying lenses, give some thought to this !!
Nikon lenses are either "manual focus" (Ai, Ai-S) or "auto-focus" (AF, AF-D, AF-S and AF-S with a G designation, which are the newest).

Unless you are prepared to learn and cope with the (old-fashioned) “manual method” of focussing a lens you should only look for “auto-focus” lenses. Nowadays many older, but high quality manual focus lenses are available, and often are much less expensive, but they are only for use if you don't mind manual focusing... !

Very important !! ....... the most modern auto-focus lenses have their own internal auto-focus motor. Others need to be driven by a motor for that purpose in the camera body. Only lenses with an AF-S designation have their own internal drive motor. Nikon call it "Silent Wave Motor". All the others need to be used on a camera with its own in-camera motor for auto-focus to work. Nikon D3000/D5000 series cameras do NOT have that drive motor and will therefore only autofocus with an AF-S lens. DX Cameras WITH that motor are the D90, D300, D300s, D7000, D7100 and the Full Frame (FX) models the D700, the new D600, the D800 and the pro models the D3, D3x, D4.

Which lenses are good? The term you will see used amongst many enthusiasts for a lens is "glass" – a terrible affectation in my opinion. All Nikon lenses are good, but some are better than others. You usually "get what you pay for". There are also what is known as "fast" lenses. These tend to be either "primes" (single focal length) or zooms (eg 24-70mm/70-200mm) which have a better capability in low light situations. Look for lenses with an aperture of f1.2, f1.4, f1.8, f2, f2.5, f2.8, f4 - and for zooms it should be the same constant large aperture across the whole zoom range. That is NOT to say that lenses with larger aperture range (eg f3.5 - f5.6) are not good. Many will advise "buy the camera body only, then buy the best lens you can afford". Wise advice which can save you a lot of cash in the long run !

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Apr 3, 2013 02:05:18   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Besides the size, the 70-300 has internal focus and a focus scale and costs $200 more.

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